[DEV REQUEST] Please make the Hellhound Obtainable By More than Just the Top 100 PVP

All players will get a second chance to get the hellhound mount in season 4. There is still time to try to reach the top 100.

What if PVP worked on a token system where you get a "bronze token" for coming in the top 100. This allows you to go to the wolves den and exchange it for the hellhound. Then in the next season there is a new reward, and you can either get that reward or the hellhound. Now it is permenant, exclusive to PVP, and acts as a ranked prize that changes every season.

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Originally Posted by Kai_Lee

All players will get a second chance to get the hellhound mount in season 4. There is still time to try to reach the top 100.

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In season 4 leaderboard there will be the same hardcore pvp players (and their multiple alts), even if they'll get their mount season 3. They'll just not let anyone get anywhere close to Top100.

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

In season 4 leaderboard there will be the same hardcore pvp players (and their multiple alts), even if they'll get their mount season 3. They'll just not let anyone get anywhere close to Top100.

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Doesn't every tournament have big competition? You shouldn't enter any competition because those at the top will beat you down. Seriously... They aren't cheating and are there because they worked for it, just as you should if you want to be there too. They aren't getting freebies, they are just good players who work to get the rewards, as is their right in a competition. Should I complain that I can't get the prize in a LoL tournament because I suck at LoL?

Edit: for that matter I suck at feast too

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Originally Posted by Lambdafish

Doesn't every tournament have big competition? You shouldn't enter any competition because those at the top will beat you down. Seriously... They aren't cheating and are there because they worked for it, just as you should if you want to be there too. They aren't getting freebies, they are just good players who work to get the rewards, as is their right in a competition. Should I complain that I can't get the prize in a LoL tournament because I suck at LoL?

Edit: for that matter I suck at feast too

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I think he means it will be impossible to compete because of wintrading still being rampant

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Originally Posted by Lone-wolfe-02

I think he means it will be impossible to compete because of wintrading still being rampant

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Given the surge in popularity thanks to Garo (and soon to be the new map) is that still the case? The more people participating makes wintrading harder

Don't get me wrong, there are systems in feast that are very wrong when it comes to ranking (lack of decay), but we should be talking about those problems, not removing the rewards from a competitive tournament, it just comes across as very entitled that people want feast to die and all they care about is the mount that they are seemingly entitled to

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Originally Posted by Lambdafish

Given the surge in popularity thanks to Garo (and soon to be the new map) is that still the case? The more people participating makes wintrading harder

Don't get me wrong, there are systems in feast that are very wrong when it comes to ranking (lack of decay), but we should be talking about those problems, not removing the rewards from a competitive tournament, it just comes across as very entitled that people want feast to die and all they care about is the mount that they are seemingly entitled to

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I'm of the opinion that PvP exclusives should become easier over time, Raiders work very hard to clear content and get the exclusive rewards but in 3 months time and beyond everyone can those rewards for little to no effort.
Both groups work hard but why should PvP keep theirs?.

Now here come all the alts to fluff the top 100.

Also, account sharing.

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Originally Posted by Lone-wolfe-02

I'm of the opinion that PvP exclusives should become easier over time, Raiders work very hard to clear content and get the exclusive rewards but in 3 months time and beyond everyone can those rewards for little to no effort.
Both groups work hard but why should PvP keep theirs?.

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Isn't that a guarantee anyway? everything in this game decays and its not a case of if, but rather when. We got replica gear for crafters, then it went into PotD, same with the primal weapons. The reason the current PVP mounts haven't had the same treatment is because they aren't "intentionally limited", the only reason they are rare is because nobody is doing the content. The solution to those mounts is to unify the achievements rather than provide an alternate method, but I feel the hellhound mount will be handled differently.

I still prefer my token solution though, it seems a lot more fair (and the cost will be downgraded over time, like tomes or hunt seals)

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Originally Posted by Lambdafish

Seriously... They aren't cheating and are there because they worked for it, just as you should if you want to be there too.

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Hahahahahaha

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Originally Posted by Magic-Mal

Hahahahahaha

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You should know that the PVP community at large hates cheaters. As fun as it may be to be a troll that undermines players' cherished achievements, we do our best to police our own community.

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Originally Posted by Nirokun

You should know that the PVP community at large hates cheaters. As fun as it may be to be a troll that undermines players' cherished achievements, we do our best to police our own community.

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You do your best but what does it matter if SE doesn't even try to help? I used to do ranked PvP and was discouraged because I realized with 30min queues(matches I can lose), I'll never make it to top 100.

People probably get top 100 then stop playing(No degrading system). Because of that, people can't get matches. = indefinite spot.

There are plenty of people up there who I won't name that have impossibly high winrates. They shouldn't even be there. They should be kicked out. It IS a competition right?

Then as others pointed out, next season will just be filled with all the alts and they will use the same methods to win. And then the next season. And then the next season. And then the next season

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Originally Posted by Magic-Mal

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Then my point still stands, why are we complaining about a tournament reward instead of these issues then? The tournament reward is fine, what could be improved is:

- Decay system to give more competition
- Limit rankings to one character per account per datacenter (alts can participate, but only the character with the highest ranking counts)
- Lower the number of rank brackets so that there are more players per bracket
- Adjust how rank is calculated
(and pvp chat, but thats a whole separate issue)

THESE are the things we should be talking about, instead a LOT of people are of the mindset of "delete feast, give me hellhound", which is not ok.

I definitely don't want to see Feast go away, but I did put a BIG suggestion list in the PVP forum for ways to improve it. No dev comments on that either /sad ..

But as it stands right now, only hardcore PVPers and their alts and friends will have a chance at this mount. We *may* have a chance at it in Season 4 but if nothing gets fixed in Feast, it will just be another week-long rush by said hardcore PVPers/alts/friends after the patch is released to hit the top 100 and sit there on their collective hands. No one else has much of a chance the way the system is currently set up. Hence my suggestion of an alternate way to get it that doesn't involve the cash shop.

I mean to be fair, hell hound makes no sense from the Feast, Wolves Den/Feast being based around wolves..not void demon dogs, At the same time I agree though...the pvp system for feast ranking is very flawed mainly because of no skill rating decrease.

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Originally Posted by Stormfur

I definitely don't want to see Feast go away, but I did put a BIG suggestion list in the PVP forum for ways to improve it. No dev comments on that either /sad ..

But as it stands right now, only hardcore PVPers and their alts and friends will have a chance at this mount.

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That's not true everyone has a chance and they don't stop playing after 1 week last season top100 played until garo patch on aether. For example Chaos is still active Rn.

As a former, almost exclusive PvPer in other games (don't do it anymore, and have not even tried it in FFXIV) I have to disagree with this. PvPers should have exclusive items, whether they be mounts, minions, cool looking glam gear, etc. Otherwise there'd be almost no reason to do it. It's a cool mount, but not cool enough that I want to get back into frustrating PvP to earn it, and I'm not gonna beg for access to anything that may be specific to content I don't do.

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Originally Posted by UnstablePersonality

I mean to be fair, hell hound makes no sense from the Feast, Wolves Den/Feast being based around wolves..not void demon dogs, At the same time I agree though...the pvp system for feast ranking is very flawed mainly because of no skill rating decrease.

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So you suggest everything needs to be wolf themed? Did you ever checked the very first pvp sets etc.? Man I wish ppl would stop necro this thread.

I was in the top 100 on primal until 2 days ago, to loose top 100 within 2 weeks of season 3 end is disheartening but I still do not want to see it available to everyone. Those in the top 100 truly deserve it for their efforts. I can't wait for season 4 to come, I will try harder in season 4 that for sure. I have something to prove to myself going forward. If players want the mount, take the time now to prepare yourself for the next season.

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Originally Posted by Magic-Mal

There are plenty of people up there who I won't name that have impossibly high winrates. They shouldn't even be there. They should be kicked out

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What's considered an impossibly high winrate? And why should they be kicked?

Also what are these supposed dead queues? Queues have been popping everyday. You say people queue and sit on their rank without acknowledging the hardwork to get into top 10/100. Movement in the top 100 on aether didn't slow down until 3.5 and you can blame that entirely on the quick chat system. With these queues people are still finding their way into top 10/100. Meaning that people are being overthrown.

I wouldn't mind a decay system, but be careful what you wish for. Gonna make the people with impossible win rates prove why they have those winrates in your queues. They're going to be using the method of being a good player to demonstrate the differences in skill!

I don't believe in participation medals. Don't cheapen the other's accomplishments.

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Doesn't participants get a earring or some kind of accessories to match the rank you achieve at the end of the season?

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Originally Posted by Kai_Lee

Doesn't participants get a earring or some kind of accessories to match the rank you achieve at the end of the season?

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Yea you get a accessorie currently based on your tier and a title.

season1 : necklace
season2 : earring
season3 : bracelet

The reason why im not in the top 100 because I want the gold bracelet to match my gold earring I got from season 2. I don't understand why more players werent want more matching color accessories.

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Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3

So you suggest everything needs to be wolf themed? Did you ever checked the very first pvp sets etc.? Man I wish ppl would stop necro this thread.

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Just saying a void hound would make more sense in a void based dungeon.

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Originally Posted by UnstablePersonality

Just saying a void hound would make more sense in a void based dungeon.

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Like.... I dunno.... maybe... The Shadows of Mhach series.... where people asked for it..

Eh but that's a silly idea. Lololololol.

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Originally Posted by Magic-Mal

Like.... I dunno.... maybe... The Shadows of Mhach series.... where people asked for it..

Eh but that's a silly idea. Lololololol.

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Tbh that's actually where I thought it'd end up and what I was hinting at lol

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Originally Posted by UnstablePersonality

Tbh that's actually where I thought it'd end up and what I was hinting at lol

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I know xP.

Was just making it sillier

I would also like to get the mount but pvp ques are taking 30min or more to get into and most times it a lost at that cause either got people who are new or just everyone doing their own thing then working together it rather stupid.

But really try cause I would really like that mount myself so be nice if you guys did make it some way else to get it then just score in the top 100 what bad enough but then myself at least am in a Data Center with 3 of the biggest Realms so make it that much harder.

So once more be great to get it through another way be it so many win in this pvp or for so many wolf marks through the pvp vendors or even make it like Fenrir and make it 1mil in the GS cause frankly could use something to buy there now days.

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Originally Posted by Magic-Mal

I know xP.

Was just making it sillier

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Oh I know lol I'm just furthering it.

As a pvp'er I do like the fact there are cool rewards for pvping. That said I have NEVER been a fan of items which are unnatainable after a certain timeframe. I also do not like having items which are finite in number. A good way to handle this is either a token system for top 100 players which still denotes skill/ bragging rights, or making it an achievement item which one can get for placing in the top 100 in ANY season of the Feast. Mounts/minions are one of the few things you don't want to lock away from people based off of the time they played.