IMO, Titan HM is the most poorly planned progression point in the game right now

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Originally Posted by LeafyVegetable

My issue with titan and to some extent garuda is the amount of stuff you need to dodge. Basically, those of us having 300ms lag will find it next to unplayable, while a similarly geared team from japan with 10ms lag will breeze through it. They really need to take lag into account in these battles. Yeah too much lag is the player's own problem, but they should factor in at least 200ms lag while designing these, and change the point you take damage to upon impact rather than when animation starts.

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Yea for a 2013 PVE MMO there is really no excuse for this sort of poor netcode, pings lower than 300ms really shouldn't be an issue at all.

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Originally Posted by Shiyo

No, I did it with a warrior tank and we won.

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You missed the point of the message. I have no doubt it can be done with a WAR tank, the problem is, it is harder and people don't want you to tank him and would rather take a PLD.

I have experienced myself getting rejected by people in shout because they didn't want me as a tank nor a DPS.

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Originally Posted by Eccho

I completely agree with this. To think I have been grinding him for 4 days now hours at a time just to get my relic. No one cares what he drops which is good because he is too hard for multi-runs. I play a scholar in a solid 8 man group but I've given up. There's no place for a scholar in that fight so I probably wont be getting my relic. I may as well go and re-roll a WHM abandon my scholar relic quest and start again. No one wants to take in scholars.

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Don't give up, we've actually found scholar to be really useful on Titan. The people who are telling you scholars aren't good for that fight are just bad.

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Originally Posted by Yuji-Ikaido

The argument is completely flawed because the OP stands to act as if the only purpose to the game is to simply get your best gear, yours alone and that's it. What then. This type of thinking is so antisocial that it's like poison.

If PuGs were able to clear all content with ease, the game would be far too easy.

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Not really, since Titan Hard is a story quest, with the fancy meteor quest logo and everything... and you also need to beat it before you get to see/try the Coil...

Exactly what part of "progression point" were you unclear on?

I like the difficulty of Titan. The fight and mechanics of the fight are very fun... but when I dodge something I KNOW I DODGED and it still hits me... I want to put my fist through a wall. What this fight usually turns into is people who are preemptively moving to avoid something they know they won't get out of MPKing other people by running haphazardly in an already REALLY small arena. I'm upgrading my internet tomorrow, praying that it works. Otherwise, I have no idea how I'm going to beat this fight.

SE: please don't take the 'easy way out' and extend the time you have to get out of red circles. I LIKE that you need to react fast. Instead, please fix it so that the red circles on your screen are 'true-to-sight' and the server isn't only checking your position every .3 seconds. That's years in online gaming time.

I wish Titan would of droped maybe ilvl 80 gear. The weapons are useless at that point since you get relics for beating him. He is a lot harder then garuda but basically drops weapons with very similar stats which you will never use since you just got your relic when you beat him.

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Originally Posted by Yuji-Ikaido

Here we are with more entitled nonsense. You do not get to form up with any half retarded PuG and beat the entire game with little to no effort.

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Entitled what? I farmed my darklight/primal weapons just like everybody else. I make parties myself. I enjoy challenging content. I'm so sick of this "entitled" buzzword being thrown around...

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What a travesty that we would actually have a challenging battle that requires coordinated teamwork in a multiplayer game

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Right, because that's the point I was making...

People losing to end game content via Duty Finder, run to forums. While DF is very similar to WoW's, is everyone expecting Dragonsoul DF mode? Under geared? Why are you trying?! Have gear and/or plus some? Why are you using DF instead of your FC? Scratching my head on this 'issue'.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Fairy is pretty useless...

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I also just finished this as SCH. In particular, when I started the fight I ran up and droped by fairy to the back right of Titan (out of AOE). This kept the fairy close to tank to help with heals and still hit most people with AOE regen. Stoneskin IMO is worthless as you wouldnt cast it mid-fight for the mana it cost and within 5 sec of the fight it is gone. Prot-shell is nice, which is why we brought a WHM. My fairy RARELY died and when she did, I swift-raised as you stated. If people are dying so much that you are on constant timers for Swiftcast then it is probably the people you run with.

The lag is terri-bad. I had to learn to basically move everywhere 3 sec ahead of time to avoid things from the constant spikes I got (and IM in AZ... not EU). For the Plumes, memorize the order in which he does things (it doesnt change) and pop sprint before he plumes. Thats how I dealt with it (not that it was easy to do).

dammit -.-` I still cant get through Titan HM with pug or even static team(there will always another mistake done), working so hard to get used to the pattern, almost 1 week I tried to beat him. And these guys are protesting ?if SE is planning change Titan HM instance because of this thread, I literally hate you -.-