Crystal Gathering too Slow

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Originally Posted by Parodine

I don't know if it was already said, but as a 23 Botanist, I've gotten three abilities that let me increase the crystal yield I get +2 for everytime I mine 'Melphina's Ward', 'Nophica's Ward', etc. for Wind, Earth, and Ice crystals. So potentially for basic trees/grasses, I can get 12 crystal shards per run, which is pretty decent I think.

I've been trying to level Botanist and Carpenter and keep them around the same...but Carpenter levels so much fasters, and I basically have to use my entire leve supply on Botanist, it's been hard.

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The problem isn't crystals or clusters for that matter it's shards. You still only gather shards at the same rate as crystals but the consumption per synthesis on consumable items is outrageous. 12 shards per run every 6-7 node is nothing compared to the 1,100 I need to make one stack of food.

the amount and time it takes to farm shards and crystals are perfectly fine. stop being lazy or buy them off the market board.

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Originally Posted by DwightParkman

the amount and time it takes to farm shards and crystals are perfectly fine. stop being lazy or buy them off the market board.

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Remember when you posted this thread:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...iciency-Issues.
Then the lead dev, Yoshi, completely proved you wrong(as well as the entire playerbase, but the lead dev matters more) by lowering repair costs by 60%?

Yeah, you're a troll, and no one should ever listen to you.

Just as a test, I went and timed how long it took me to mine up 1000 ice shards. This was done as a lv 30 miner, on the level 30 rocky outcrops at Quarterstone with the ward from having 20 Botanist.

It took me just shy of 1h 15m to mine up 1000 ice shards, at a spot I was not familiar with when starting, some occasional lag and misclicks wasting time, no mount use, and some tv distractions too. So I likely could have done it faster, especially with better +GP gear on as well, currently only have +68. Next time I go mining for Ice shards, I could likely push it closer to the 1hr mark now that I know the spot, and by using a mount at times too.

If you don't believe the numbers, go and see how long it takes you to gather the shards of your choice off of the level 30 nodes with the appropriate ward ability as well.

So there really is not a problem with the rate at gathering shards at higher levels of mining/botany.

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Originally Posted by Earendur

I need 12000 wind shards, you expect me to mine up that many?

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The cap is at 9.999

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Originally Posted by Cocytus

12 shards per run every 6-7 node is nothing compared to the 1,100 I need to make one stack of food.

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4 shards each node. That would make 12 shards per every 3th node.

Say you would need to start gathering, get all 4 shards and run to the next node ~ 20 seconds.
1100 shards = 275 nodes = ~ 1,5 hours

If you think that gathering crystals takes too long then buy them from the AH.

This is not a problem.

Why are you not utilizing leves? I got from 49 to 50 BSM in a couple hours. 33k exp per leve, and in some cases I could turn in multiple pieces for even more. Grinding out crafts is the old way to do it.

Crafting is very very fast already, it doesn't need to be faster. you should at least try to work for something occasionally. Everything should not be instant these days, an it amazes me people are complaining about something so simple an sso fast.

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Originally Posted by Shiyo

Remember when you posted this thread:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...iciency-Issues.
Then the lead dev, Yoshi, completely proved you wrong(as well as the entire playerbase, but the lead dev matters more) by lowering repair costs by 60%?

Yeah, you're a troll, and no one should ever listen to you.

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To be fair, the repair cost was a much more pressing issue than this is. The issue isn't that it actually takes too long to collect crystals either in my opinion, it's that gathering in general is exceedingly boring and tedious. They made gathering ridiculously easy to do, they practically throw materials at you.. to counter-balance this, they made it reeeeeeally boring to do, which I understand.. Personally though, I'd prefer it to be harder to do and entertaining, as opposed to easy and boring. But eh..

I do think the abilities that let you harvest multiple crystals at once are a bit too expensive though.. or rather that GP regenerates at an exceedingly slow rate. It makes no sense at all to me that GP is the slowest resource in the game to regain, especially since it's not even that important in gathering for much else.

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Originally Posted by Krisan

I do think the abilities that let you harvest multiple crystals at once are a bit too expensive though.. or rather that GP regenerates at an exceedingly slow rate. It makes no sense at all to me that GP is the slowest resource in the game to regain, especially since it's not even that important in gathering for much else.

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As someone that does a nice bit of gathering, if GP came back faster I would be swimming in more materials than I could get rid after a longer session. As either the demand for the items are not there, or would flood a market and risk crashing some of the few markets still worth while. Have to be careful of not clogging my retainers as is due to trying to keep some markets worth while. And if the wards cost less, thanks to people already bot mining, that market would evaporate over night, and would not take long even without the bots.