Why does everything take so long?

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

You're assuming they want to add an AH. Note how they've said, "they'll consider adding an AH".

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I don't really care even if they don't add an AH. I am satisfied with the market wards.
I just think there should be other things they focus on, other than the AH. But the fact that he was able to do this, in 5 hours, just shows dedication. I know it's not something that can compare to the programming needed for an AH in FFXIV, but still. If you look at work hours = results I mean.

Again I'm torn on this issue, things take time, it's half a year since release, and what do we have, a few minor quests and such.

I still beleive there is alot coming soon in the way of PVE content but holding back, but people need to see more stuff I think. It takes time to do stuff, but can anyone seriously say that the stuff released so far takes 4 months to do? *I took off 2 since hasn't been much since febuary/early march then add in reset* we get NM's and they are 6 minor ones no one touches, we get new quests, they are done in a afternoon. I'm just believing and hoping that they havn't wated 6 months and we have a ton of stuff coming, just waiting for combat/core changes to allow for them to go in.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Tera if I recall, uses Unreal Engine whereas FFXIV uses an inhouse engine they had to develop before making the actual game itself which they've mentioned was the largest portion of Rapture/XIV's development time.

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While true, XIV was announced in development by 2005, the Engine most likely started development before than, 03, 04? Plus the engine is not just for XIV so its been development by all staff capable of, not just XIVs team. And still lacks features of more dedicated engines. So while TERA got a headstart with prebuilt engines, XIV started development using that engine a lot earlier by a much larger work force.

I think a lot comes down to bad decisions and bad programmers. Yeh they're in a big company blah blah but they're just so bad, everyone saw this in XI and even see it in XIII. They cripple themselves in so many ways and take the wrong approach to things. You see it even now on the forums when people suggest features and their response is "it will take too long" "it cant be done" etc, when its such simple things that every other game developer seems to do fine with. All SE want to do is make the visual story XD

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Originally Posted by Paksenarrion

I don't really care even if they don't add an AH. I am satisfied with the market wards.
I just think there should be other things they focus on, other than the AH. But the fact that he was able to do this, in 5 hours, just shows dedication. I know it's not something that can compare to the programming needed for an AH in FFXIV, but still. If you look at work hours = results I mean.

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He didn't really do anything significant in 5 hours. He created a shell.

But that's besides the point. Why do you assume they aren't doing anything? So just because they aren't updating the game every time they make a change, you assume they are all twiddling their thumbs and laughing at the players while they whack off or something?

I don't know if you've heard but there was this little wave prancing around japan.

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

He didn't really do anything significant in 5 hours. He created a shell.

But that's besides the point. Why do you assume they aren't doing anything? So just because they aren't updating the game every time they make a change, you assume they are all twiddling their thumbs and laughing at the players while they whack off or something?

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Yes , its really not much what I have now. But it'll hopefully duispel some myths that this it's hard work. A team of there skilled individuals could hammer out a test version by the end of a day. From forum posts and producer letters, se has nothing. that s really disappointing. It makes you wonder what theyre doing all day.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

Yes , its really not much what I have now. But it'll hopefully duispel some myths that this it's hard work. A team of there skilled individuals could hammer out a test version by the end of a day. From forum posts and producer letters, se has nothing. that s really disappointing. It makes you wonder what theyre doing all day.

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And again, you're assuming they're planning on adding one.

You have no idea what they are working on, so you have no idea how long it should take.

I'm sure they're all playing frisbee in the office, telling fart jokes and making copies of their butt-cheeks. They're not working at all, since you seem to think SE is willing to pay all them for doing nothing. >.>

They have told us they are making drastic changes. Those take time. Just because they aren't updating the game for every little change they plan to make doesn't mean they aren't doing anything.

No one said it was hardwork, it's just not this fabled "one day's work", especially given the implementation compared to a website database.

If people were worried about them distracting dev time to do events (which it doesn't), people would (should) be worried about them distracting dev time to making a redundant market system instead of more important changes, like fixing the foundation, laying the ground work and the like so we can start to get content.

everytime we talking about how slow SE programming task is...

Elexia will hop in

like I said, he's one of SE programmer and that's why everything take so long

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

And again, you're assuming they're planning on adding one.

You have no idea what they are working on, so you have no idea how long it should take.

I'm sure they're all playing frisbee in the office, telling fart jokes and making copies of their butt-cheeks. They're not working at all, since you seem to think SE is willing to pay all them for doing nothing. >.>

They have told us they are making drastic changes. Those take time. Just because they aren't updating the game for every little change they plan to make doesn't mean they aren't doing anything.

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SE paid the first team for 5 years while they were sleeping or something because what they gave us was not 5 years of works worth.