Quick Poll on Microphones

Don't use mic, mainly because I play at all sort of crazy hours during the day and night, so last thing I need is be yelling in a game chat and wake up the family at 3am.

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Originally Posted by Vilhem

I don't think it's crucial/necessary for raids...I mean yeah it makes things easier, but I've done speed runs, garuda, ifrit etc without v-chat at all

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none of which are particularly difficult, especially when you have a copy/paste strategy to follow.

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Originally Posted by fusional

with godlike gear people can lose. with the most skilled players in the universe, things can still go wrong. does this mean gear doesn't help? does this mean having skill doesn't matter? so what's your point? voice chat is the same. it increases the potential for success by giving the potential for faster, more effective communication. why would anyone even try to argue against that?

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I'm not arguing with it as much as I'm saying "It really isn't that big a deal". For instance, I wouldn't kick a person just because they can't voice chat. And really, this game isn't that hard at all. People can get through all the content with no voice chat just fine. Surgical precision isn't really key to making it. So lighten up, lol.

It is alot closer than I expected actually. I thought most people did use chat.

I use mumble. find it invaluable. you can talk and fight at the same time. in 1.0 if you were typing you werent fighting. i imagine 2.0 wouldnt be much different

You know with the rate at which they keep adding these Voicechat threads. They might as well just remove the chat function. Nobody is going to use it. :P

Yep and MMO where the only way you can communicate in-game is by /emotes and voicechat! lol

I like voicechat and all, but the reason why they never incorporate it into games is that Voicechat is only usuable with about 5-6 ppl. Sure thats perfect for a party, but not for a large LS. To much chatter and nobody can hear anybody. A Chat log is much easier to digest if you leave your desk for a couple as well.

Scroll up and catch up on what you missed. That's not possible in voicechat! Which further makes MMO's feel like you can never leave your seat!

And quite honestly I sometimes feel like ppl post and push voice chat because they are not comofortable with typing! I learned to type quickly because of chatting in MMO's and IM's. Now kids these days learned to type on their T9's and smartphones! lol So when you put a keyboard in front of them they have problems and would rather use voice chat than learn to type! :P Typing is a life skill that is useful in your work. Learn to use it!

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Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder

I'm not arguing with it as much as I'm saying "It really isn't that big a deal". For instance, I wouldn't kick a person just because they can't voice chat. And really, this game isn't that hard at all. People can get through all the content with no voice chat just fine. Surgical precision isn't really key to making it. So lighten up, lol.

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if people are running content that doesn't require surgical precision, they likely aren't very serious about raiding. so my point still stands. furthermore, arguing that most content in this game isn't terribly hard doesn't detract from my point whatsoever, either, as "serious about raiding" and "easy/casual content" don't really correlate.

i also never qualified that my "serious about raiding" comment as specifically relating to FFXIV. in fact, i generalized with "modern MMOs" giving us context outside of FFXIV and it's largely easy battle content. most modern MMOs have far more difficult content than anything we've seen in XIV, and more competition within their communities. additionally, modern MMOs generally aren't as heavily chat-based as XI/XIV. this makes voice chat mostly essential if you're serious about getting the hard stuff done.

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Originally Posted by fusional

oh jesus christ here we go again. "whatever you're no different, it's pretty much the same for us"

that's fine, though. don't consider all the variables in your argument. don't see it objectively. argue from a position of bias because you don't like voice chat. that's cool. i'm not even opening this can of worms.

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This is a discussion board. Let's discuss.

I do not think there is anything wrong with voice. I prefer text.
You, on the other hand, not only prefer voice, but believe text is an inferior mode of communication.

I have completed the same trials in FFXIV as you. I have reaped the same rewards as you. I have done it all through text. I imagine you have done it all through voice. We do things differently, yet we achieve the same shit.

So indulge me. Unpack these variables. Describe the objective position to take, since mine is so hopelessly biased in a matter of pure preference.

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Originally Posted by fusional

if people are running content that doesn't require surgical precision, they likely aren't very serious about raiding.

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OR they're playing a game like Final Fantasy XIV, in which surgical precision is not really needed in even the hardest content.

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Originally Posted by fusional

so my point still stands. furthermore, arguing that most content in this game isn't terribly hard doesn't detract from my point whatsoever, either, as "serious about raiding" and "easy/casual content" don't really correlate.

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See: Above post.

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Originally Posted by fusional

i also never qualified that my "serious about raiding" comment as specifically relating to FFXIV. in fact, i generalized with "modern MMOs" giving us context outside of FFXIV and it's largely easy battle content. most modern MMOs have far more difficult content than anything we've seen in XIV, and more competition within their communities. this makes voice chat mostly essential if you're serious about getting the hard stuff done.

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And MY point is, it's STILL not really that big a deal, unless you're playing for money or something. I'm sorry, but I just never really took raiding all that seriously. Also, if you're having such a huge problem with a raid that you're getting wiped in it over and over chances are it's not the absence of voice chat that's the problem. You need practice. And a plan. And both can be executed without the ability to speak into a microphone and have everyone hear you yell expletives over and over. Yes, I know, it might help make it easier. But my point is, I never took it so serious that I excluded anyone from a group that didn't have voice chat. To be honest, I don't think any game should be taken that seriously, again, unless you're getting paid to do it.

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Originally Posted by fusional

none of which are particularly difficult, especially when you have a copy/paste strategy to follow.

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Then I guess my point stands that v-chat is not necessary, amirite?

P.S. Skye you crack me up so bad XD