Could be % based, could be active player accounts on the server within a given month, could be a manual toggle that they just won't turn off despite it no longer being the case, who knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn
The login queue however is entirely artificial, because the login server works in batches.
This doesn't mean the server is actually full when you get a queue at 4am, but that X amount of other players are currently trying to log in and the server waits an arbitrary amount of time until it processes them all. Probably requires less resources than processing every login request individually.
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06-17-2025, 05:07 AMAbsurdity
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06-17-2025, 05:13 AMRinoa_353I blacklisted them because they cause unnecessary drain on my computer that slows to a crawl when there are too many people in a given area. S rank hunts are one thing because it's all genuine players there to kill it but this is completely unnecessary and a waste of resources that directly impacts the performance of my computer. Soon I won't have space to blacklist them all because of the small 200 limit when there are 157 of them already blocked and I won't have space to block people that harass and stalk me. Not to mention they are an eye sore too.Quote:
Originally Posted by SophiaDL
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06-17-2025, 05:13 AMsagaciousI am one of those bees knees cat girls and I think I am beautiful dancing with skimpy gear on. Don't be so negative, enjoy life and be happy :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jangles
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06-17-2025, 08:06 AMMasekase_Hurricanehmmm im looking at that first pic and on my server it's way busier around the aetheryte, so I'm not seeing what the problem is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rinoa_353
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06-17-2025, 11:36 AMGokki
I don't mind them, it's kinda funny. That said - they often block people or objects i want to interact with so i blacklist them.
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06-17-2025, 03:53 PMYovelaLindswood
He's not even obstructing the zone with how spread out they are. There are no msq quests where he's standing. He's just vibing and having a laugh. I know someone on guild wars who does that because he likes getting whispers from people and getting in conversations. The fact that this post even exists blows my mind. The games not serious enough to dictate what you want to control. You don't own the game.
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06-18-2025, 02:42 AMObscuraFii mean, literally, the second half of your post is an exaggeration that's not even realistically what's happening so you asking someone to prove something that doesn't exist is redundant. you don't even know how long the account creation process took him, you don't know that they all logged in at the same time, you have no idea what the pc screens look like as they could just be launching/sitting at character select for hours as a process until he does 2 clicks per screen which is like, 2s * 20 accounts = 40s of them coming in despite the fact each launcher/client hadn't been open for the same time period.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuroka
the botting reasoning is also a bad argument in general because noone gets banned for botting in general unless they're doing it for 24+ hours straight consistently for an automatic passive flag the task force set up gets hit because like I said, square enix can't see what's going on on a PC. Yoshi P literally used the example of someone using a calculator and doing a raiding rotation at the same time as one reason they don't like drawing a line and even trying to define what 3rd party software is or what its purpose is or to in their words "get into a reporting war over who is and isn't using 3rd party software, why did I get banned and they didn't, because that's not what the mmo experience should be about". they don't want to deal with technicalities, they don't want to deal with what is and isn't realistic. you could look at bards, housing, ppl in impossible sitting poses in open world and see blatant 3rd party software usage that's common sense not even remotely possible by a human being or a possibility due to a code restriction, but you want them to enforce 3rd party software over, what, doing msq and afk'ing? you realize a gm has to go to each of those accounts, and backtrack and find the logs of leveling and combat and cross reference tens if not hundreds of accounts to even remotely prove that argument because on a theoreitical level, you could have a macro for combat while physically moving several characters on a different screen, so he needs significant overlap in the matter of looking at a combat log /BY THE SECONDS/ to even try to prove that. Square Enix already defined their burden of proof/when they care about 3rd party software so unless you have a livestream of them running into a wall for 3 hours or behaving like Eureka bots, you're not going to be able to do anything, because even if you had a video sent by someone else, videos and screenshots aren't considered proof by GM's and they'll tell you that if you try to attach/mention one in a ticket. You'd have to livestream hunting weaboo's and know what world and what time he did his leveling to even try to go the "he botted" route. It's a waste of time.
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06-18-2025, 11:21 AMEsja
People are talking like this is only 20 accounts.
As I type this there are over 70 of them in Limsa based on Player Search results. And they've logged in with over 215 separate accounts since 7.25.
They've been doing this for years, including some spicy racist chat in the past.
At the very minimum you could consider it harassment since they're bragging about creating over 200 accounts to circumvent the blacklist limit.
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06-18-2025, 12:42 PMObscuraFi1) as stated before, multiple people each running around 15-20.Quote:
Originally Posted by Esja
2) the amount of accounts doesn't even actually matter because:
3) As defined by Square Enix "Harassment" is speech and/or behavior that inflicts deep emotional distress on another person. Being AFK with a lot of characters is not going to qualify as inflicting deep emotional distress.
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4) Circumventing the blacklist isn't against ToS. What you're looking for under Prohibited Behaviors is:
"Creating new characters to message someone who has blacklisted you, despite being asked to stop the behavior."
Because there's no contacting of someone who has blacklisted them, there is no violation. If Person A blacklists Person B, Person B could've made a new character pre-dawntrail or makes a secondary service account for multitasking and that second character is now "circumventing" Person A's blacklist. But if there's no contact with Person A, Person A is not able to file a ticket just from them creating a new character/account. Even if they did contact Person A, there's still the requirement of being asked to stop the contact behavior because Person B may not even know Person A blacklisted them to begin with. People need to stop thinking about "what should be violations", and actually going into the prohibited behaviors and linking text that is directly what is being done. A GM's standard of harassment, of nuisance, of scamming, of stalking, are sometimes drastically different from what the community's is.
5) Another problem is that every ticket needs a specific victim, and has to be filed by a victim. You cannot file a ticket on behalf of someone else (people have tried, GM's will reply and confirm this). So you end up a situation where you have to explain to a GM, that they created new accounts just to "harass" YOU specifically. And you have to remember, that harassment is, once more, deep emotional distress. To say other people would suffer deep emotional distress (which would still be a failed ticket), or the community suffers deep emotional distress, over an AFK character, is an auto-close ticket. If he's not messaging you to brag to you specifically about circumventing YOUR blacklist, it doesn't matter. And even if he did, you have to ask him to stop the behavior before it becomes a violation. Now if you don't like that protocol, that's feedback for Square Enix because they made that requirement and it's a repeated theme throughout Prohibited Behaviors. -
06-18-2025, 01:55 PMMawlzySome of that is absolutely shocking. How are they not banned?Quote:
Originally Posted by Esja