Since Jumping is confirmed, can we fall off a cliff, take damage, etc?

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Originally Posted by Lux_Rayna

This thread has gotten...strange. Btw I find it ridiculous to compare WoW to Final Fantasy. The two are entirely different, from graphics to overall presentation. WoW's lets you jump off super high cliffs because its a cartoon. FFXIV is not a cartoon, but leans more towards realism. As a result, allowing you to jump off a high cliff would be highly immersion breaking, since it would not make any damn sense in that world. It's like Yoshi said, it would kill you.

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Actually it's an MMO, but ok. I guess graphics are the leading thing that determines if something is realistic or not eh? Fight dragons? Realistic. Cast magic? Realistic. Get hurt when you fall? WTF that's not realistic AT ALL! I prefer to be able to fall from as high as I damn well please without taking any damage, because I prefer my games realistic.

Isnt having jump added enough for you jump lovers, you want ffxwow, go fcking back to wow cliffs and jump of them, or dual ffxiv and wow, that way you can jump of cliffs and die.

I personally think they dont want to allow our characters to die, as it is we get knocked out but never die. Maybe that is where the idea of realism comes into play.

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

We will still have invisible walls on huge cliffs, and other large obstacles. Before jumping, those weren't immersion breaking, but they will be afterwards.
"Be careful what you ask for" is the lesson here, I suppose.

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They always were immersion breaking and they still will be in ARR.
While I really want to be able to move freely I also understand Yoshida's thoughts and why we won't get jumps from high places.
But I wished we at least wouldn't have invisible walls but something like what chocobos do at the town entrance - they "see" where you are going, remember they are not allowed in town so the stop and walk a few steps backwards.
Very intelligent birdies :o
I wished my character was this intelligent in front of a 80 Yalm cliff as well instead of running against an invisible wall for minutes or hours. That would at least be a way more beautiful way to implement the "you are not allowed to die here".

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Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch

Actually it's an MMO, but ok. I guess graphics are the leading thing that determines if something is realistic or not eh? Fight dragons? Realistic. Cast magic? Realistic. Get hurt when you fall? WTF that's not realistic AT ALL! I prefer to be able to fall from as high as I damn well please without taking any damage, because I prefer my games realistic.

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What are you talking about? Its not just graphics, but overall presentation. WoW is a cartoony universe. What about that is so hard to understand? Just look at the bloody surroundings, how things are modeled, the animation, the textures. All of that screams cartoony.


And really you are acting like a buffoon. Realism does not imply everything has to be true to life. On the contrary, you can have a universe that is entirely different than our own, but still be realistic from our point of view. For instance I can have a world where Dinosaurs are roaming around, dragons fly through the air, and particles of magic exist, but gravity still applies..just like our world. Everything superhuman would require an explanation, like a spell to increase speed or a potion that gives humans the ability to fly. There are varying degrees of realism in every facet of fantasy so please don't make such inane arguments.

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Originally Posted by Madrox

I personally think they dont want to allow our characters to die, as it is we get knocked out but never die. Maybe that is where the idea of realism comes into play.

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Ifrit burns you alive, but falling off a cliff, heaven's have mercy!

I would prefer more freedom even dying from a cliff than having invisble walls... ;)

you forgot to say "Shove your loved one off a cliff for being mean to you in a dungeon run"

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Originally Posted by Lux_Rayna

Realism does not imply everything has to be true to life. There are varying degrees of realism in every facet of fantasy so please don't make such inane arguments.

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I think the realism Yoshi is talking about is the graphical realism. Judging by the way our character's move and live, Eorzea's gravity seems to be pretty much the same as the real worlds.
Therefore a character would die if he jumped down a high cliff, but with the graphical level FFXIV is at, a bloody mess would have to be at the bottom of that cliff.
And I doubt SE wants to lose the rating for 12 year olds and get a mature rating instead..^^°
So it's easier to just not allow us to jump down.

So many people who want to comit suicide ingame "i want to jump off a cliff" tztz* where did our society went

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