Someone on reddit analysed how many main cast lines are in the game. Wuk Lamat is 3rd

Don't worry, there's still a very good chance we can pump up those numbers and put her at #1 where she belongs.

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Originally Posted by Kranel_San

I'd like to add that according to the Reddit post comments. The term 'lines' refer to every dialogue in-game. Including Main quests, side quests, seasonal quests, NPCs dialogues, etc.... and not just the MSQ dialogue only, which I believe makes this even more disastrous.

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The list they give of their dialogue sources is "2.0 to 7.1 MSQ, Alliance Raids, Job Quests, Seasonal Events, and Collaboration Events".

This seems to be missing a number of elements that might tip back the balance somewhat: trials, normal raids and other similar side stories such as Eureka (if they are not using "alliance raids" as a catch-all), chatting with characters between objectives (which may be attached to the NPC rather than the quest) and dungeon voiceovers and trusts.

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Originally Posted by Nihility

I have a feeling I'd probably have grown to dislike her even if she was written well. It was apparently 10+ years of dialogue in a month

but then considering her entire character arc is the first line of the pokemon opening theme...
and they did the poochy thing from the simpsons where whenever shes not around everyone else is just "where's poochy? "i wonder what poochy is up to?"
kind of gets even more crazy to think about when you realize there's a pretty huge chunk where she's gone and your following erenville's story so all that dialogue is actually only like 3/4 of one expansion


WoL being heavily used makes perfect sense.
Characters addressing you directly isn't really something that can be compared

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Funny that you mention that. Because forget Naruto, Wuk Lamat is "Ashelia Ketchum" in terms of writing.

Sun & Moon generation Ashelia Ketchum even.

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Originally Posted by Kranel_San

I'd like to add that according to the Reddit post comments. The term 'lines' refer to every dialogue in-game. Including Main quests, side quests, seasonal quests, NPCs dialogues, etc.... and not just the MSQ dialogue only, which I believe makes this even more disastrous.

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This seems to be the case. For example, Wuk Lamat accompanies us often in battle, so you get various segments like this:

Wuk Lamat: I've got you!
Wuk Lamat: Yaaaaaargh!
G'raha Tia: That was too close...
Wuk Lamat: Steady now.
Wuk Lamat: Dammit!
G'raha Tia: Spread out, everyone.
Wuk Lamat: You'll pay for that!
Wuk Lamat: Thank you.
The giant colibri flies into a fit of rage!
Wuk Lamat: What's gotten into this thing!?
G'raha Tia: Try aiming for its wings!
Wuk Lamat: Hmph, that was hardly a tickle!
Giant Colibri: Hardly a tickle!
Wuk Lamat: Try this!
Wuk Lamat: Nothing to it.

These are all counted as separate lines. Personally I think it's silly to consider a line like "Yaaaaaargh!" to have the same 'weight' as a line of exposition or drama, but this analysis collapses all context and meaning. For example, many of the lines in the above text are different lines by virtue of appearing in different text bubbles, but are clearly semantically and contextually grouped together. Given how inflated the statistics likely are, I'd be more interested in a report of 'meaningful' lines by character.

Wuk bashing besides, but you cant judge anything based on this right now, if you wanna see the true % you need to make a sheet and make a list for every single expansion to see how much of a expansion are spoken by xyz npc, because like earlier someone said that wuk has close to the same % then alpidumb has in HW

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Originally Posted by Exmo

This seems to be the case. For example, Wuk Lamat accompanies us often in battle, so you get various segments like this:

Given how inflated the statistics likely are, I'd be more interested in a report of 'meaningful' lines by character.

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You act as if other characters didn't accompany us through dungeons for 3 expansions now. Even with that none of the Scions come even close to Wuk Lamat over 3 expansions of being with us and also with us in dungeons.

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Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust

Wuk bashing besides, but you cant judge anything based on this right now, if you wanna see the true % you need to make a sheet and make a list for every single expansion to see how much of a expansion are spoken by xyz npc, because like earlier someone said that wuk has close to the same % then alpidumb has in HW

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The reddit post did that.
And you can't compare Wuks yabbering in Dawntrail to Alphinauds blabbering in Heavenward as Heavensward has much fewer lines.

If anything Wuk Lamat talked so much that her lines are more thna half of the entire lines in HW by all NPCs combined.

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Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust

Wuk bashing besides, but you cant judge anything based on this right now, if you wanna see the true % you need to make a sheet and make a list for every single expansion to see how much of a expansion are spoken by xyz npc, because like earlier someone said that wuk has close to the same % then alpidumb has in HW

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The post linked in reddit has that stuff included. It's something like Alphinaud has 20% of HW lines, Wuk Lamat has 24% of DT lines. Not a huge difference. Why there's a discrepancy in how their presence is felt, if not in nature then at least in severity, is open to interpretation. I would guess either some people are affected more by DT having many more lines in total than HW, or people like Alphinaud more so don't mind him taking up the room, but they don't like Wuk Lamat as much so are faster to anger. If that's the case... line count doesn't really matter, and this is just a new stick they can use to flog the horse.

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Originally Posted by ViinaS

You act as if other characters didn't accompany us through dungeons for 3 expansions now. Even with that none of the Scions come even close to Wuk Lamat over 3 expansions of being with us and also with us in dungeons.



The reddit post did that.
And you can't compare Wuks yabbering in Dawntrail to Alphinauds blabbering in Heavenward as Heavensward has much fewer lines.

If anything Wuk Lamat talked so much that her lines are more thna half of the entire lines in HW by all NPCs combined.

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Thats why i said you need to get all lines for every expansion, you cant compare a expansion which has 5 lines with a expansion with 100000 lines, if i wanna compare wuk to the other npcs based on a % we need to compare it to EVERY expansion seperated as %


Like as example if alphinauis talk in HW was 50% from all HW voicelines and wuks DT lines are 40% based on the % its still less talk then alphi did, the exact numbers on voice lines doesnt matter because we judging it based on the % of the voicelines

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Originally Posted by Exmo

The post linked in reddit has that stuff included. It's something like Alphinaud has 20% of HW lines, Wuk Lamat has 24% of DT lines. Not a huge difference. Why there's a discrepancy in how their presence is felt, if not in nature then at least in severity, is open to interpretation. I would guess either some people are affected more by DT having many more lines in total than HW, or people like Alphinaud more so don't mind him taking up the room, but they don't like Wuk Lamat as much so are faster to anger. If that's the case... line count doesn't really matter, and this is just a new stick they can use to flog the horse.

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yea thats exactly what i meant, based on the % alphi and wuk are really close, its probably because wuk did 24% nonsense lines but still the % between them is very close

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Originally Posted by BunnyReaper

All credit goes to u/turn_a_blind_eye/Rise Narukami and u/eriyu.

Like the title said, someone posted on the XIV subreddit some very cool and interesting graphs, I do not know if I can post links in this forum or not, if I can, I will edit with a link to it.
Top 3 characters with the most lines from 2.0 to 7.1 in total:
1. Alphinaud at 93,649, 7.1%.
2 Alisae at 48,404, 4.3%.
3 Wuk Lamat 39,134 4.2%. In one expansion.

Wuk Lamat is *BARELY* behind Alisae, a character that has been with us since the very first cutscene, since the start of the game.

And with those 39,134 lines, she has basically said the same things every single time, never anything new. She is genuinely the most forced, uninteresting, bland character in the game. How is a character that has been here for only ONE expansion, and not even a full one at that, have almost more lines than Alisae? Why force her so bad?

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Put the link in your first post, please. https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...rom_arr_20_to/

Also, you mixed the word count and the line count. how can 48k be 4.3% and 39k be 4.2% while 93k is 7.1%? You misread the chart : the absolute numbers you gave are the word count, the percentage the line count. It's 3162 lines for Alisaie, and 3077 for Wuk Lamat. Please fix your first post, you can put reddit links in them, it's better to have a first post that does not seem off. Especially if you're gonna do the same error on the japanese forum.