The real reason there are even subscribers in 2024

Housing plots, illegal mod QoL, roleplay and community/friends. It sure as heck isn't the gameplay

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Originally Posted by HighlanderClone

Let's be really honest why there are people even subscribed to FF14 in 2024:

It isn't because it's a video game, or because it's an MMO. It's not even a good RPG anymore. Go play Divinity Original Sin 1&2 or Baldur's Gate III if you actually want to play a good RPG. And if you want fun JRPG combat? FF7R has that. Story? Lol. For the first time it's actually worse than WoW's.

Let's all be honest. The reason why people are even "playing" FF14 in 2024 isn't because people are "playing" the game. It's because FF14 has the best suite of third party, ToS-violating tools that help you look your best in screenshots. Or the best in different custom poses. Or the best while they're all unequipped and you're doing gods know what down there while staring at those unequipped characters.

It's also because FF14 has the best drama. Desolance? Xeno? Arthars? Healer strike? Wuk Lamat? Need I go on? It's always a fun time to be in the FF14 community because every other day some human interest story will organically pop up that lets people get a huge whiff of what absolute human depravity looks like.

And it's also because you can find your e-girl or e-boy on some steamy Discord and get dating while sitting on each other's lap (both catgirl ofc) on the Limsa Lominsa Lower Deck Plaza bench under a tree right to the left of the marketboard. But really it's all just Discord and using FF14 to heat up your room.

Who actually subscribes to FF14 for a video game after all?

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Because players are lazy and conformists.


I completely oppose mods but Yoshida is doing nothing to prevent them which is pretty unfair. The game looks like 10 years old crap but players are still happy with it, they don't seem to complain that we only have pretty faces but PS3 bodies.


Personally I want much better body models, I don't care how the dev team does it, I don't care if all NPCs look like shabby FFX characters as long as my character looks great.


I could use mods to have my characters look great but they are illegal under ToS. Mods are also mediocre since the ones that create them do it however they want and they are too different from the "vanilla" models so an official solution would be better, that is remodeling all character bodies to conform to current standards and not old PS3 stuff.


MMO games should NOT live more than 10 years but while they continue to make money the developers will continue to milk players.

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Originally Posted by HighlanderClone

FF14 has the best drama. Desolance? Xeno? Arthars? Healer strike? Wuk Lamat? Need I go on? It's always a fun time to be in the FF14 community because every other day some human interest story will organically pop up that lets people get a huge whiff of what absolute human depravity looks like.

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Now this I can agree with.

FFXIV drama is peak.

https://i.imgflip.com/8dwf17.jpg

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Originally Posted by SigmaOZ

MMO games should NOT live more than 10 years but while they continue to make money the developers will continue to milk players.

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You have the freedom to apply this rule to yourself and just not play older games.

Best? Dunno, SL drama makes FF drama look like a kindy kid in church. I mean SL drama is bat-cap crazy.

Edit: Come to think of it, SL drama makes Sena look sane enough to be the US president.

I follow the money. If the game has a lot of subscribers, it is drawing players - for whatever reason. Maybe not every idea SE has is gold, but enough of it is. The proof is in the pudding.

Did someone mention the fear of dropping something that you spend a lot of time and money into it?

I guess there is a ton of players who just can't let go even if the game doesn't bring much fun anymore. Just because of this.

For new players it's a great game with a lot of content. But for longterm players the always repeating forumla becomes very boring at some point. On top the issues of the game get not solved over so many years.

But..., as I've said before, those many years spending time and money into 14 make lots of people stay and hope for better times again.

In my opinion that's one point why people stay. But I also think that the modding community keeps it alive for a lot of people. Even if it is forbidden.

I am personally not a big fan of all the modding stuff. I like the idea that every player on every plattform can see 'the same'. But I have understanding for all people who want actual hands and feet, hats and hairstyles no matter what race, normal upper male bodies and similar stuff that should be available vanilla in the game anyway for years.

My reason for sticking around is mostly my FC and the friends I have in-game. I like doing stuff with friends.

I like to play and finish games I've paid for. I haven't even seen DT yet.

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Originally Posted by Heavenchild

Did someone mention the fear of dropping something that you spend a lot of time and money into it?

I guess there is a ton of players who just can't let go even if the game doesn't bring much fun anymore. Just because of this.

For new players it's a great game with a lot of content. But for longterm players the always repeating forumla becomes very boring at some point. On top the issues of the game get not solved over so many years.

But..., as I've said before, those many years spending time and money into 14 make lots of people stay and hope for better times again.

In my opinion that's one point why people stay. But I also think that the modding community keeps it alive for a lot of people. Even if it is forbidden.

I am personally not a big fan of all the modding stuff. I like the idea that every player on every plattform can see 'the same'. But I have understanding for all people who want actual hands and feet, hats and hairstyles no matter what race, normal upper male bodies and similar stuff that should be available vanilla in the game anyway for years.

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sunk cost fallacy

The only reason I'm staying is that I have alot of 'memories' related to my house and FC, and the MSQ. Memories is all that's keeping me chained to this game. Also, there's no appealing alternative. I played GW2 for like 5-6 years before I started this game, and I burnt out completely from it and I hate what it has become. WoW? Hm, I considered it but subbing to another MMO is too much for me.

I think I'm too tired to start a new MMO, XIV burnt me out socially that I only spend time alone in it. I guess I fall into the lonewolf category. I enjoy PF alot though, but alot of encounters put me off due to low visual clarity.

Mods for this game are akin to what the community is doing for Skyrim. I honestly don't care what people see on their client, it doesn't affect me at all. I wish they'd give us something other than sausage fingers?? My face is high poly but my body is low poly...it stands out even more now. Idk how they didn't bother to update that too lmao