Housing lottery system takes entirely too long and is poorly designed.

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Originally Posted by Eraden

Mights want to rethink rude and mischaracterizings words. Mao never "hand-waved" anythings. Mao only said that SE mights find other ways to boost incomes. Thems explored such options before. Thems might try do its again. Mao never said Mao was oks with thats. Roll Ryuko been tryings very hard to be antagonistic to Mao with each post, even though Mao was tryings has good-faith discussion. Is true that Devs nots said anythings abouts puttings in instanced housings buts then agains, thems never really say much abouts what thems gonna do. Nobody knows buts SE. All Mao was tryings to say was that is lots players angrys and upset that thems will never gets dream-house because supply is just too limiteds and best house all gone alreadys. House system as currently is (Lottery makes no difference here) creates resentments among players because most coveted house already gone. Only practical way to solve problem, at least partly, is to make interiors of house and apartsments upsgradables and/or introduce some form of instanced housing. Adding more wards is less effectives because lots people whats are complainings are wantings the premium house. Mao just stating facts here. Roll Ryuko actings like Roll Ryuko wants bite Mao head off for stating facts. Mao never said anythings about supportings gettings premium house for everyones. Mao just said is what lots players clamorings for. Mao nots has LB41 or large house and Mao nots care to own one. This does not stop Mao from recognizings fact that others do. Anyways, this discussion gettings too abrasives from Roll Ryuko so Mao gonna bow out. Mao nots interested in has conversation with another player whats trying to mischaracterize Mao.

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I don't have any issues with you, if what I'm typing seems curt, I apologize. I don't really care to jump any further into this.

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Originally Posted by Solowing

Lets say if the new ward releases, and it looks cool and theres a plot i really want. Oh sorry you cant place a bid because you already own a plot, imagine if you got locked out of getting a Shirogane plot you really liked because you unknowingly made the mistake of buying a plot in the mist before you knew what the next housing zone looked like.

So lets say a players wants to bid on a large plot, so they demolish their plot in hopes of winning out a bid of 60+ people...And they don't win the plot... You now have less then what you started for taking that risky gamble. You're out of a home and have nothing to show for it.

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Yes, it is a gamble. That's the point. We have players with no housing at all. Adding more wards should be done with the goal of getting housing into the hands of players that don't have them. Otherwise, why add new housing at all?

Right now, housing is a no-risk proposition. You put your gil down, you win, you get the house that you would have paid for. You lose... you get your gil back. Nothing lost. Another option (which would have had to be done earlier) is to make an actual gamble. You put down 5% or so of the purchase price. You win, you get it for 5%. You lose? You lose 5%. That would make it "serious bidders only." Another option would be blind bidding. You put your gil down, whomever pays the most wins.

The system could be better... but what we had before was terrible. Placard spamming? While that did make it "serious players only" - it also had a lot of bots winning. At least this system, there is no rush. You put down your bid and come back in a few days.

I wish we had a grace period of 5 - 10 minutes to withdraw our bids.

I misread a placard and thought that it was for both FC and private. So I put a bid down only to realize that it was a private plot...

I hope that I loose this round. >.<

I have personally given up on housing and accepted that I'm destined to be stuck with a small plot for as long as I play this game. Which may not be very long anyway if the story doesn't improve soon, but that's another topic all together. I used to try having fun with my misery by offering gil to my Discord friends for whoever came closest to guessing the number of bids I will lose by. But even that got tiring after a while. So I simply don't care anymore. I don't even bother looking at the available plots.

Design?
Housing Lottery is just something this forum pushing and SE band aid it
The guy who activistly that actively campaign it stop posting here (probably because he finally got a house)

My FC house got demo'd at some point because we were all inactive. It happens.

I still think the wards are better, despite the problems. The limited resource means other people would visit my house. Having neighbors is also nice. In contrast, an instanced, upgradeable house is something I'd likely forget about once I'm "finished." Can anyone tell me the names of their Squadron members?

While the lottery isn't the only problem, it does make us feel powerless to "work hard for what I want."

Quick math with easy numbers: if 100 or 20 people bid on a particular plot type each cycle, on average a player who enters every week should see a house after 900 or 180 days, respectively. I think its fair to say that many players would quit the game before winning.

If I could have a wishlist, I'd ask for:
* Something to encourage people to relinquish underused houses. I'm pretty sure many people on my world have their house for the cheap teleport, but why would they ever get rid of it?
* Some kind of system to prevent anyone from getting too unlucky. With odds this low, it's possible for an unlucky person to go much, much longer than average without winning. It would be a challenge to implement fairly, but something I wish SE would at least consider.

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Originally Posted by Solowing

I don't have any issues with you, if what I'm typing seems curt, I apologize. I don't really care to jump any further into this.

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I don't think anyone would blame you for misunderstanding the gibberish this person writes.

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Originally Posted by WinglessSeraphim

I don't think anyone would blame you for misunderstanding the gibberish this person writes.

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The housing system is mostly fine, people just are terrible at utilizing the space they have available. Limitation breeds creativity, and some of you are bereft of it.When they bump the item limit, the "its not enough" complaints will still be here.

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Originally Posted by Acesfool

I have personally given up on housing and accepted that I'm destined to be stuck with a small plot for as long as I play this game. Which may not be very long anyway if the story doesn't improve soon, but that's another topic all together. I used to try having fun with my misery by offering gil to my Discord friends for whoever came closest to guessing the number of bids I will lose by. But even that got tiring after a while. So I simply don't care anymore. I don't even bother looking at the available plots.

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Don't stop bidding, but don't expect. Let it be a pleasant surprise.

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I absolutely love it.