SAM casting

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Originally Posted by ShadowyZero

ya'll out here complaining about casts but lets not forget BARD and MACHINIST also had casts once upon time where's the outrage for their removal gone!? or are ya'll just stuck up hypocrites? which is it? or maybe ya'll are just jaded black mage and summoner mains lmao i am really starting to wonder XD seriously.
SAMURAI IS NOT A CASTER PERIOD IT WAS NOT DESIGNED TO BE A MAGE GET OVER IT YOU WERE GIVEN YOUR SWORD-MAGE HYBRID CALLED REDMAGE GO PLAY IT!

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Samurai has had cast bars since it was added to the game. It has always had them.

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Originally Posted by Emitans

Samurai has had cast bars since it was added to the game. It has always had them.

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so did machinist and so did summoner but wowie did they ever change their stance on it because of player feedback :) no machinist has 0 casting bars and summoner has had their casts significantly reduced.
do you want to add anything else? or should i just continue to add reasons as to why melee dps shouldn't have to cast if they are specifically not designed to be magical in nature?

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Originally Posted by ShadowyZero

why melee dps shouldn't have to cast if they are specifically not designed to be magical in nature?

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Samurai is magical in nature actually, you literally manifest ice when you Midare.

It's not a realistic swordsman, it's a "doing a draw slash to cut steel in half" kind of samurai. You can argue mechanics all you wish just don't try to argue the job is something it's not.

Quite honestly after losing Kaiten removing the casts on Samurai would be the final nail in the coffin.

Removing the casts pretty much removes the last thing that makes using the big hits satisfying. It would just solidify being on the eternal bench after leveling it.

It really, really sucks to see the job in this state as someone who held the firm opinion that on EW launch samurai felt the best it ever has and makes me sad I didn't play it more at the time.

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Originally Posted by ShadowyZero

ya'll out here complaining about casts but lets not forget BARD and MACHINIST also had casts once upon time where's the outrage for their removal gone!?![/B]

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I'm gonna bite:

HW BRD got a Cast because of MCH, but it didn't have before so people complained accordingly. Even tho it makes sense to me to have some cast time (since you gotta pull the string back) but still.

MCH was fine cuz the reload system since it was build upon that so it wasn't bad
but I wouldn't mind MCH getting some cast back (like drill to potency it up), or even the PvP action that you can cast but walk veeery slowly, I wouldn't mind one bit.

Plus, it's not "caster" it's "magical ranged", they can have cast time for flavor, which is the case for SAM.


It's the "relax and think on nothing" and bam, swords. And you can even slidecast at half of it to move.

They should give BRD, and MCH back their cast times, but like use the walking cast mechanic from their current PVP versions.

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Originally Posted by mallleable

They should give BRD, and MCH back their cast times, but like use the walking cast mechanic from their current PVP versions.

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It'd give the role some badly needed flavor, plus the slow aim and walk feels great in PVP.

It kills me they have in fact acknowledged their PVP design is more interesting, but that they don't want to bring anything interesting into PVE because well, it might create *gasp* niches. The horror.

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Originally Posted by ThorneDynasty

It'd give the role some badly needed flavor, plus the slow aim and walk feels great in PVP.

It kills me they have in fact acknowledged their PVP design is more interesting, but that they don't want to bring anything interesting into PVE because well, it might create *gasp* niches. The horror.

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Really-? That's so lame. if done right it would only deepen current playstyle niches -- which are already kinda present, and not power scaling niches. Like SAM already has its nice with having to cast Iaijutsus, NIN has its niche with Mudras, DNC has its niche with its dances, and GNB has its niche with continuation. Job mechanic niches already exist.

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Originally Posted by GoatOfWar

People aren't hating. They are disagreeing with you.

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Bump.

It's kind of sad watching someone with a victim complex start lashing out like a spoiled child at perceived personal slights, making their insecurity a self-fulfilling prophecy when that behavior inevitably starts to actually turn everyone against them.

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Originally Posted by ShadowyZero

ya'll out here complaining about casts but lets not forget BARD and MACHINIST also had casts once upon time where's the outrage for their removal gone!? or are ya'll just stuck up hypocrites? which is it? or maybe ya'll are just jaded black mage and summoner mains lmao i am really starting to wonder XD seriously.
SAMURAI IS NOT A CASTER PERIOD IT WAS NOT DESIGNED TO BE A MAGE GET OVER IT YOU WERE GIVEN YOUR SWORD-MAGE HYBRID CALLED REDMAGE GO PLAY IT!

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I would love the return of Foe Requiem for Bards. sadly we have just accepted it since the dev's don't undo things.