Will no longer purchase optional items in response to statue emote

I preordered the day the statue showed up, in the first hour the page went live. My order is now marked as declined for some reason (loads of credit available on my card) and the statue is marked as out of stock. The SE store has long been a complete mess IMHO. No cool statue & emote for me I guess ... unless I want to pay $1k to some scalper...

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Originally Posted by Doki

I preordered the day the statue showed up, in the first hour the page went live. My order is now marked as declined for some reason (loads of credit available on my card) and the statue is marked as out of stock. The SE store has long been a complete mess IMHO. No cool statue & emote for me I guess ... unless I want to pay $1k to some scalper...

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If you are willing to pay 1k for a mediocre emote and a scuffed statue, more power to you eh ?

The Scalpers I do somewhat understand why they do what they do... Not that I think it's a good thing, but without a doubt there will be cases where people bought the statue purely for the emote, they'll take it and then try to sell the statue off to someone without the code.

You guys are always quick to demand exclusivity to go away for PvP ranked rewards, but once it is a statue it doesn't even cross your mind anymore.

There are even minions from 2.x merchandise that aren't on mogstation yet either. Or mounts that never got a promotion campaign in Europe.

Why not demand that after 3-5 years or something they should put the emote in the shop for 30$. SE is a company, they need to make profit. And the longer you defend them, the more greedy they can get - any company will do it like that.

Decline of the "Meister Quality" quality aside, I find the idea of releasing exclusive, limited in-game items to be completely outdated and nonsensical, and the online behavior of showing off the latest overpriced premium mount or statue emote equally baffling. Great, you have money to waste, I don't... so what? Am I supposed to feel envious of something I can't ever get or purchase because I simply wasn't there at the right time with the right amount of money and/or free time?

I've said this in previous threads related to this topic, but outside of 1.0 Legacy achievements, it makes very little sense to keep mounts, minions, titles, emotes and gear exclusive.

As a EU player it's even more frustrating to see collaborations happening in Japan and NA, and 2 years later the only chance we got to receive a Chocorpokkur is some "special 10th anniversary giveaway" where we can only hope to be one of the 2800 winners selected among both EU and NA participants. Thankfully they finally added the pizza emote to the store, but that only happened after enough people requested it in person at the London Fanfest from what I heard :^)

And what is making the most amount of money on the store right now?

https://i.imgur.com/SrYVYLk.png

Wow no way :^)

Either way, like Halivel said I think exclusivity doesn't bring much to the table when you could either sell the emote to a much, much larger consumer base on the store, or like I said in the thread I linked, to make previously exclusive rewards available again through other, equally challenging (or at least time consuming) means, or simply achievement certificates.

To go back to the figurines themselves, I still don't understand why the quality is abysmal compared to the first ones, or even compared to the Nier ones that are sold on the same store by the same company...? Can't they just use the same manufacturer?

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Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia

You guys are always quick to demand exclusivity to go away for PvP ranked rewards, but once it is a statue it doesn't even cross your mind anymore.

There are even minions from 2.x merchandise that aren't on mogstation yet either. Or mounts that never got a promotion campaign in Europe.

Why not demand that after 3-5 years or something they should put the emote in the shop for 30$. SE is a company, they need to make profit. And the longer you defend them, the more greedy they can get - any company will do it like that.

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Definitely they could drop the exclusivity on things... I'd be fine if they were a timed exclusive, but things being just completely unobtainable is stupid.

If they didn't tie the emote to it no one would be buying the statue. No one.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

WoW has essentially account wide everything. SE, figure it out.

Semi-recently is appeared WoW has looked a bit more hungrily at FFXIV, like when they announced warbands which gets very close to our job system. While I still prefer FFXIV, I don't like it sitting on its laurels. Things like beastmaster, FFXIV, make me think they are. Given we see active examples from multiple other MMOs that have figured out pet jobs, multiple options, and even abilities that mean something. Druids with substantial effort to provide them a proper experience. But if it's unique we get limited.

I shouldn't be too carried away, we still have $100 digital expansions for diablo lol, but just something I feel that is shifting.l (not 180'd yet).

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account wide glam, no glam dresser in sight, once you get it, its unlocked on all your characters. But hoping we get a cosmetic journal like WoW has, from Yoshi P is like still asking Blizzard for player housing, it'll never happen.

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Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia

You guys are always quick to demand exclusivity to go away for PvP ranked rewards, but once it is a statue it doesn't even cross your mind anymore.

There are even minions from 2.x merchandise that aren't on mogstation yet either. Or mounts that never got a promotion campaign in Europe.

Why not demand that after 3-5 years or something they should put the emote in the shop for 30$. SE is a company, they need to make profit. And the longer you defend them, the more greedy they can get - any company will do it like that.

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I find the idea of "once gone - forever gone" idiotic for years, which also led to me leaving a whole lot of online projects where FOMO is a second bread.

And if with physical goods I can at least somewhat understand the appeal (and I still find it stupid, mind me) - they'yre tangible and you might touch them and be even able to resell them at some point; with digital items the way some folks are bent on them staying exclusive forever is beyond my understanding.

They're not real, and once the servers go down those pixels will be gone forever anyway. You won't be able to materialize them for the purpose of showing them off or reselling, so... what's the point? A meek joy from the fact that you owned an item that you couldn't even touch, but at least it was only "owned" by what, you and 200 other people? Hilarious, but to each their own I guess.


So yeah, rewards like this 100% should be implemented through other means at some point after their release.

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Originally Posted by RaideDuku

That is...a fair and reasonable response...a oddity in these forums. It still boggles the mind that someone would $400 for an emote of all things, I suppose a quick look at ebay would shatter that delusion of mine (EIGHT GRAND FOR AN OMEGA CODE!?). Well. I'm glad you were able to cancel it and get your money back, and apologize if I came across as harsh. Hopefully you've learned an important lesson. You can enjoy a game. You can even be thankful for it. You can feel those things for the individuals that worked on that game. At the end of the day, however, a corporation (for most games in the Triple-A space) made that game. No corporation is worth your love.

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Having played many mmos and mobile games, it's not a surprising thing at all for people to spend this much. It's a normal thing, even. Many of my friends who play mobage easily toss hundreds/thousands a month on mobile games like Genshin, Granblue Fantasy, Honkai, etc. In many F2P MMOs like Elsword, the whole culture/endgame was around obtaining and showing off loot box costume collections and people whaled so much for them. This continues into modern F2P MMOs such as Lost Ark, where they take every opportunity available to them to make you feel like trash if you don't spend money. So yeah, it's not surprising to me that people would spend thousands on an effect or emote. Most of these people aren't rich either, they just choose to do that with their disposable income. I'm not saying that it's right at all, but it's a common mindset. This is why I was never that bothered by FF14's monetization. It's nothing in the sea of trash around it. People who complain have probably never seen how bad the spending is in other MMOs.