Fishing, Its time to bring it in line with the other gathering jobs!!

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

Trust me, it's not fun for anyone.

The people who have fun doing this are lying to themselves, and to the rest of us. I assure you that I can find you or any other serious Fisher cursing their luck in a discord somewhere when the window closes and they realize that they're going to be spending 20+ hours to sometimes weeks waiting for it to open again so they can try again.

Very, very few people genuinely enjoy that, and most people that say they do are saying it to gatekeep.

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That's cuz the enjoyment is in the dopamine you get once you get the fish. If it was easier to get you wouldn't get nearly as a good feeling.

Just because you don't enjoy it doesn't mean everyone else thinks the same. I did it all in the past year and loved/missed it once I was done.

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Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn

That's cuz the enjoyment is in the dopamine you get once you get the fish. If it was easier to get you wouldn't get nearly as a good feeling.

Just because you don't enjoy it doesn't mean everyone else thinks the same. I did it all in the past year and loved/missed it once I was done.

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No one's asking for it to be easier. People just don't like RNG.

Peak gameplay isn't spinning a roulette to see if you get lucky. Also, I can screenshot half the current big fishing discord and show you just how miserable people are from the current system. Any system where people consider themselves jailed/freed upon completion is pretty bad.

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

No one's asking for it to be easier. People just don't like RNG.

Peak gameplay isn't spinning a roulette to see if you get lucky. Also, I can screenshot half the current big fishing discord and show you just how miserable people are from the current system. Any system where people consider themselves jailed/freed upon completion is pretty bad.

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Removing rng would make it easier. If all you needed was to fit the weather/time criterias then that's ez af.

I also don't care if others aren't having fun with the system or not. I enjoy it and that's all I care about.

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Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn

Removing rng would make it easier. If all you needed was to fit the weather/time criterias then that's ez af.

I also don't care if others aren't having fun with the system or not. I enjoy it and that's all I care about.

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Not our fault the system for fishing in this game is braindead easy. Adding RNG to something doesn't make it difficult though. It doesn't make it an accomplishment.

Oh, and if you don't care about if others are having fun, maybe you should stick to single player games and avoid discourse about how other players engage the content. Just a thought.

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

Not our fault the system for fishing in this game is braindead easy. Adding RNG to something doesn't make it difficult though. It doesn't make it an accomplishment.

Oh, and if you don't care about if others are having fun, maybe you should stick to single player games and avoid discourse about how other players engage the content. Just a thought.

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If it wasn't an accomplishment then people wouldn't be impressed at the big fish title but that's still the case.

What are you going on about? You came out spouting nonsense like "the people who have fun doing this are lying".
I disagree, I'm having fun and also play with other fishers who enjoy the system.
That's all I'm saying.

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Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn

If it wasn't an accomplishment then people wouldn't be impressed at the big fish title but that's still the case.

What are you going on about? You came out spouting nonsense like "the people who have fun doing this are lying".
I disagree, I'm having fun and also play with other fishers who enjoy the system.
That's all I'm saying.

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Why are you engaging a blatant troll. Would someone sincerely open their argument with "Trust me, it's not fun for anyone." then immediately try and blame others for gatekeeping ("Very, very few people genuinely enjoy that, and most people that say they do are saying it to gatekeep.")

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

Trust me, it's not fun for anyone.

The people who have fun doing this are lying to themselves, and to the rest of us. I assure you that I can find you or any other serious Fisher cursing their luck in a discord somewhere when the window closes and they realize that they're going to be spending 20+ hours to sometimes weeks waiting for it to open again so they can try again.

Very, very few people genuinely enjoy that, and most people that say they do are saying it to gatekeep.

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Exactly. The process itself isn't the fun part. It's catching the fish and overcoming the obstacles. And that's a great dopamine hit. But it's incredibly frustrating when the obstacle is just RNG. I'm a fishing enthusiast. It does cheapen the experience when you only succeeded this time versus another time because you got lucky this time. More player agency would enrich the experience.

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Originally Posted by ACE135

Right, if it's not fun to you, there's no point in doing it. Others who have fun with it will do it.
Not every aspect of the game is fun for every player. So do that what actually is fun to you.

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When the stars align and you catch that rare fish your response isn't "Man, this is amazingly fun". It's generally "Finally, I don't have to do that sh!t anymore"

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

When the stars align and you catch that rare fish your response isn't "Man, this is amazingly fun". It's generally "Finally, I don't have to do that sh!t anymore"

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I felt that way about this savage tier too.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

When the stars align and you catch that rare fish your response isn't "Man, this is amazingly fun". It's generally "Finally, I don't have to do that sh!t anymore"

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You could say this to everything. Grinding relics, leveling classes, decorating your house, doing extremes, savage, ultimate, roulettes etc. pp. And yet people do it.