What's even the point of doing savage?

I'm at point where raiding is too boring to do, so in this expansion, I just do basic stuff and decorating the house...

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Originally Posted by GaspardSavoureuxx

FFXIV have increase player because 1/ it's a free trial for like 100hours and more and 2/ people come on expansion, farm it for 3-4 weeks, and then leave for month to wait for the next expansion. Lots of people does that.
In warhammer online, you always had something to do in endgame and you never ran out of endgame content like in here. There were countless of hours to do in endgame, without any expansion. But there were no glam, so i guess nowaday people play MMO for glam :D

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That's funny. I have little interest in glam, yet I have a monster list of content still to do even though I've completed the MSQ. Crafting, gathering, achievement hunting, getting the last Role quest, sightseeing log entries from ARR that I never did. There's countless hours to do HERE in endgame. Perhaps you might not be interested in it. But to act as if it doesn't exist seems very disingenuous.

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Originally Posted by GaspardSavoureuxx

It may not be for me then.

The only problem is that it's the only thing to do in endgame content so...

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outside of..

Housing?
Mount collecting?
Minion Collecting?
Relic Weapons?
Acheivement Hunting?
Eureka?
Marketboard Domination?

The endgame is what you want it to be, Raiding is only a small fraction of the game.

the only COMBAT end game (when most people say end game unless they're specific they mean level 90 combat content) rn is EX trials (including unsynced), ultimate, and savage (including unsynced eden savage even unsynced can still be a challenge) on the lesser end of end game you have alliance raids, fates/hunts, and dungeon/normal trial/raid spam

now if you want to lower your level sure there's plenty of content for them but rn at 90 which is where most people wanna play there's really not alot "challenging content" tbh

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Originally Posted by pikalovr

the only COMBAT end game (when most people say end game unless they're specific they mean level 90 combat content) rn is EX trials (including unsynced), ultimate, and savage (including unsynced eden savage even unsynced can still be a challenge) on the lesser end of end game you have alliance raids, fates/hunts, and dungeon/normal trial/raid spam

now if you want to lower your level sure there's plenty of content for them but rn at 90 which is where most people wanna play there's really not alot "challenging content" tbh

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if your saying ultimate isnt challenging.. ok.

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Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE

if your saying ultimate isnt challenging.. ok.

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the older ones have become significantly easier

not saying they are easy tho

For fun. One thing people seem to forget. We play challenging contents for fun. Its a game not a job.

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Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE

if your saying ultimate isnt challenging.. ok.

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my guy why do you think i specifically seperated lesser end game content and regular end game content? regular end game content is made to be harder hence why they're considered a higher end of end game compared to something easier like fate grinding or dungeon spamming

have you ever thought that some people just do it because it's ... fun?

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if your saying ultimate isnt challenging.. ok.

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Ucob is pretty easy.

You can apparently clear UwU by killing your teammates on purpose (some stream highlight), so I'd assume this one is on the easy side too. (never tried this fight)

TEA is mechanically dense, but gets 'easier' as the fight continues.

Don't know about current.