There's too much strawmanning people who criticize the game

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Originally Posted by Velnora

I would agree with that, if they didn't have weekly caps.

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So you funnel 1 day of the week for that and only if you care about the currency and getting highest end gear.

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Originally Posted by Xirean

Then explain how.... Don't be vague. Be specific. What exactly do you want added?



How is that not enough?

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Let me just quote someone:

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

You keep insisting this yet I've already listed what the current patch has to offer and that I, specifically, have already done everything. For the sake of review, we have:

MSQ
Endsinger
Unreal
Agiaga
Role Quests
Crafting
PvP


Of those six things listed, I have completed every single one except PvP over just a two week span. And I'm only not done with PvP because I didn't initially bother with it but have since given it a whirl. I didn't rush through the content. None of it has any staying power except PvP as it's all primarily one and done. Endsinger's only longevity comes from if you care to farm her mount. Everything else is weekly restricted and/or over within an hour or two. So what exactly is this content I don't want to do? 6.15 isn't offering a bevy of longevity either. Like I said previously, it's several one and done quest chains. I have no doubt some will be cool, especially hildibrand, but they're over within the hour.

Before you mention jobs previous things like jobs. I have nearly every job leveled to 90. I've only held back on some so I have something to level when Deep Dungeon drops. I have every Crafter and Gather max and fully pentamelded. With the new gear to boot. I've done the role quests. I've done a good portion of the side quests. I have both Hydaelyn and Zodiark's mounts. In fact, I spammed the later nearly 100 times. I've BiS all my tanks, DRG, SMN and am only missing the weapon on RPR and RDM. And all this while taking that break to play other games. So no, I'm not 24/7-ing FFXIV. Nor am I opting not to do content that isn't available. Outside DRU, which I'm currently progging, there isn't anything to do unless you consider grinding 10,000 FATEs for the achievement good content.

And it isn't like I'm expecting something new to do daily. I'd be fine with some meaningful grinds to keep me occupied. How about the relic? Why are we waiting an entire year for one of the few pieces of longevity content to be released? If it came out earlier, that would help satiate a lot of players. I'll go one better and say let the damn thing equal the Savage weapons. Make the steps worthwhile to do. "The raiders will complain!" Very few give a damn at this point. I cleared P4S week two and couldn't give a hoot if week 400, the relic matches my weapon. Just make it something decent and fun to do and not a free poetic dump.

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Originally Posted by Jason_Ashford

you problem

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And don't forget:

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

I love the irony that it's okay to have this toxic attitude but simply criticizing aspects of the game I dislike means I should just quit. You're allowed to adore this game and every aspect of it just as I'm allowed to criticism it. That doesn't mean I dislike the game as a whole. Put simply, if you don't like my opinion. Kindly take your own advice and go find someone else to reply to.

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Originally Posted by Jason_Ashford

you problem

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^ Toxicity in full display here. I was fully expecting the very strawmanning and toxicity that I described in OP to happen in this thread once again but it is still disappointing.

Please continue barking though.

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

People usually shout "Facts" to someone else's idea. You doing that to your own is just sad.

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LoL. You acting like I wrote this shit post. It seems you are the one who needs to play another game. Never the less I am done talking with you. You are to sensitive for my nature, and I don't make time for sensitive people....BYE

I feel like something to also keep in mind is, for some reason, people feel a need to rush through everything and then are confused why there isn't anything left to do. Like..the game is designed for the majority (which are players that have some sort of RL responsibility that keep them unable to play for extended periods of time), so I think it's kind of silly for lifers to feel like they deserve more. Even then though, I'm a lifer in this game and still have yet to complete all of the new content (because I also have other things to occupy my time: photography for gil, barding, FC events, achievement hunting, etc).

I think you're going to get out of the game what you put into it. If you're going to run through everything in a week or two because you have the time to dedicate to that....and then complain you're bored...maybe expand your horizons in game and pick up hobbies or invest yourself further into your FC. The rate of content being released isn't going to change because there are still tons of people (new players included) that still have yet to complete the content.

The game just isn't lacking content...
You should try and play some other MMO's and you'll see that it in fact doesn't.

Both SHB and EW were massive successes and while Covid did push them back we have a very bright future ahead and the devs have been very open about what's coming.
FFXIV is however designed to not force you to login every day and I think a lot of people are used to this in gaming nowadays with games being a second job.
That doesn't mean that FFXIV is lacking content however.

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Originally Posted by Skiros

2. Stop complaining about people complaining.

https://i.redd.it/f6z8yx01ns971.png

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You're taking this way too literally.
A lot of what's going on here on these forums isn't actually very useful it's just screeching and people having no clue about how game dev works or what the issue even is.

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Originally Posted by Xavier_Firbold

"I disagree with his points... Must be a troll."

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Just because you may agree with him doesn't mean that he isn't a troll.

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Originally Posted by Skiros

Let me just quote someone:



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And don't forget:





^ Toxicity in full display here. I was fully expecting the very strawmanning and toxicity that I described in OP to happen in this thread once again but it is still disappointing.

Please continue barking though.

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You failed to answer the first part of the question though. Instead of constantly being vague or getting upset at people assuming what you want, tell us what it is you would like to see? What do you think could help fill this gap in content that you see? It's all well and good to say 'this is an issue' but if you don't offer any suggestions what do you expect to have happen. Yes it is the developers job to create things, but if they are at a loss for what more to add and you can't offer suggestions then... well we are stuck where we are at.

Kupo, it is all about the art of inflection (which given that its a forum may be difficult to create lol) <3 kupo

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Originally Posted by Vrankyl

You failed to answer the first part of the question though. Instead of constantly being vague or getting upset at people assuming what you want, tell us what it is you would like to see? What do you think could help fill this gap in content that you see? It's all well and good to say 'this is an issue' but if you don't offer any suggestions what do you expect to have happen. Yes it is the developers job to create things, but if they are at a loss for what more to add and you can't offer suggestions then... well we are stuck where we are at.

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Because that is not the point of this thread and I have made concrete suggestions multiple times of this forum.

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Originally Posted by Skiros

Because that is not the point of this thread and I have made concrete suggestions multiple times of this forum.

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Then show them.... I'm assuming I'm not alone when I say I do not see the problem. I don't know where the lack of content is. So please, explain it to me like I'm 5.