Yoshi-P: "If you want more engaging content, go play Ultimate"

I really don‘t know how to feel about that comment, following the laughter. Honestly just proved they don‘t take complaints/suggestions about healers seriously. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I love the devs but that comment kind of gave me „Do you not have phones?“ vibes.

And this is a consequence over revolving every little aspect of the game around the casuals. They want to try to play everything safe, so it doesn't upset the casual majority.

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Originally Posted by Nav_Fae

And this is a consequence over revolving every little aspect of the game around the casuals. They want to try to play everything safe, so it doesn't upset the casual majority.

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I don't blame them. The last 1 or 2 years of WoW, they shifted heavily toward a more hardcore audience and have suffered drastically for it (and for other reasons.) Their next patch is shifting (albeit only slightly) back towards the casual end of things.

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Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume

All this said, I mean after reading the entire thread, I can see Yoshi P's statement made a lot of people mad. But he isn't wrong. If you feel unchallenged, on ANY role, go to do more challenging content. It's that simple.

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It shouldn't be either 0 or 100.

That's the reason midcore content is supposed to exist in this game, to fill that spectrum.

The problem is that they dialed back what made each healer unique...even taking away some of their own unique skills to make them all relatively the same (minus their systems). Remember when AST had lumineferous aether, WHM had shroud of saints, I dont remember what SCH had? Ontop of it all, all healers had I think it was at least 2 DoTs. Those changes were brought with Stormblood and that was unfortunately when the healers began to lose what made them unique. Even the healers had their own unique cleansing skills (AST: Exalted detriment or something, WHM: Esuna, SCH: leeches). This is what happens when you try to gear the game more towards newer/ casual players. Unfortunately, with an MMO its hard to balance the game that would fit the more hardcore scene w/o sacrificing some of it for the casuals or vice versa/

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

It shouldn't be either 0 or 100.

That's the reason midcore content is supposed to exist in this game, to fill that spectrum.

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Thats where you are probably misjudging the middle. That spectrum is quite filled already, and Yoshi P likely has the proof of this. Most players are really, really bad at this game. I can say I am self aware enough to know I am pretty bad, but I regularly encounter those far worse than I am.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

This is effectively what the lead designer of this game told Healers in the latest live letter.

Consider if he had said that about your role for a second and how you would feel.

Forget the leveling experience, it doesn't matter.

Forget dungeons up to 90, they don't matter.

Forget normal raids, EX's, and Savage, they don't matter.

If you want your job to be engaging, play Ultimate, the hardest content in the game that only a few percentage of actual players do.

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I mean.. if fates, dungeons, alliance raids, extremes, savages, hunting, pvp and ??? feel boring to you, maybe you are, in fact, on that level as healer where you are more than ready for ultimate?? Just a thought.

Same problem I have with most content honestly. I feel there is very little middle ground. Its either can't fail unless everyone is alseep easy, or its need cordinated static difficulty

Extremes are the middle ground option I guess, but I wish there were more

Okay...? Play Savage then.

I'm fine with healers being chill for most stuff. If I want a challenge then Savage is more than enough.

Not every encounter has to be a struggle.

As a WHM main who doesn't do Savage or Ultimate (I like the idea of challenge. I hate the idea of schedules), I was a bit disappointed at that line myself. I do still enjoy healing but I PUG and my favorite PUG groups are where it goes pear shaped. Because that's when we actually need to heal. My least favorite PUG groups are where everything goes like a well oiled machine. It's incredibly boring because it feels like we don't need to be there.

Contrast that with playing my tank or dps roles, I never feel like I don't need to be there, whether things are going smooth or we're struggling a bit.

I don't necessarily need more dps buttons. I'm not interested in being a green dps. I just want more that's necessary to do. We could buff, debuff, apply damage shields, clear statuses, Twelve forbid even let us do crowd control. Especially with saying they want to draw in more players by making the MSQ more attractive to the single-player-only crowd (which I think is good), this would be a great time for some overhauls that make our role more like it is in those single player Final Fantasy games. You don't leave your "support" role behind in those games, and that's where I think they could strengthen our place a lot more.