No one logged in today because of Lost Ark

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Originally Posted by Theodric

To be fair, 'predatory' business practices are present almost everywhere these days. If someone is eager to collect as many mounts, emotes and minions as possible in FFXIV then they're looking at a lot of 'limited time availability' as well.

The usual counter is that they're entirely optional. Though that applies to other games as well, so...

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While I don't like limited time FOMO, it's not in the same ballpark as "Give us money before trying our F2P game FOMO".

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Originally Posted by Conundrum

While I don't like limited time FOMO, it's not in the same ballpark as "Give us money before trying our F2P game FOMO".

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I also don't think any mmo with a founders pack is still popular lol. They have all died (or have small populations and huge p2w schemes to keep revenue up)

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Originally Posted by Conundrum

Did you actually read the thread?

Several games besides Lost Ark have been mentioned and NONE of them are being slammed except LA.

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I have never participated in another game community that has negativity circlejerks about every other game in the same genre to the extent that FFXIV does. It's mortifying, and out of place for a community that constantly pretends to be a welcoming beacon of positivity. This is like console-wars tier stuff lol.

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Originally Posted by Conundrum

That's not predatory concentrated sleaze or anything. /s

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You're posting on the forums of a game that:

- Makes you pay an additional monthly subscription for extended bank storage that can also generate passive income, despite being a subscription game.
- Demolishes your player housing if you unsubscribe.
- Also sells exclusive pre-order only editions.
- Has seasonal events with rewards that are relegated to the cash-shop after their limited time run.

This game isn't without sin in respect to sleaze either.

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Originally Posted by LittleImp

I have never participated in another game community that has negativity circlejerks about every other game in the same genre to the extent that FFXIV does. It's mortifying, and out of place for a community that constantly pretends to be a welcoming beacon of positivity. This is like console-wars tier stuff lol.

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You absolutely have not seen many other game communities then lmao. There are communities that shit on THEIR OWN games because of preferences for one over the other. In terms of MMO discussion, WoW is also still way worse, although it has a strange dichotomy because often the forums are filled with people who don't like the game, so things are always very negative and yet whenever other games are brought up they are still trashed.

The only Ark I will play is Ark survival evolved and only because of nostalgia :D

But, I assume everyone just wants to try something new. So I would not worry. Just be patient. You cannot do much about gamers wanting to try new things. When the new Star Wars Eclipse comes out from Quantic I 100% will play that until I finish with the story, or maybe even until I replay it 2-3 times, cause I love all Quantic Dreams games. But that game comes out in 2026... sad times

While I do find FF's community a bit... overprotective (and it seems a lot of FF players have not played anything except FF titles), I overall prefer that to communities that hate on their games. I roll my eyes on FF folks sometimes, but it's nearly impossible to discuss anything reasonably in Destiny, Outriders, or New World communities.

But my annoyance of Lost Ark is not really related to FF. Lost Ark was forcibly put on my radar quite a while ago, I think back when a RU version was big, and back then I also was confused as to what the appeal was.

I'm not playing Lost Ark. I didn't log in because I had a hectic day IRL.

Man, XIV is actually great.
I can take a break and play another game if I want to.

If there wasn't PLA/LA/ER, I would've gone tackling other content like Ultimate.

Well that's not true. I got my reclear, and went back to lost ark. ;)

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Originally Posted by Conundrum

Did you actually read the thread?

Several games besides Lost Ark have been mentioned and NONE of them are being slammed except LA.

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Probably cause in the case of like dying light 2 it's already a bad reskin with an even worse story so no need to hit on it.