Friends Don't Let Friends PL

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Originally Posted by Lacavi

I just came back to FFXIV with a friend, so maybe my opinion isn't worth listening to, but..

We both refuse to power level, there's absolutely no point in a MMO to skip half the content in the game, even if it is a grind. I wouldn't have done it in WoW, I wouldn't have done it in FFXI. I'm half afraid to even join a linkshell due to the power leveling. So far, we've gotten Dragoon unlocked together, and it was a blast. We did the Maws duo, and it was a fun and memorable. Did we clear it? No, but it was fun learning through on our own and not having our hand held.

If you're going to skip half the exploration and content, why are you even playing this game?

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Who said you need to skip? I did all the content being lvl 50. Didn't skip a thing.

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

It's no one else's business how another player chooses to gain their levels. If your friends preferred to get PLed rather than go at your pace, there's a discrepancy between what they wanted, and what you expected of them, since you feel so disappointed. You can't just blame PLing because your friend preferred it to going at your pace.

PLing in no way negatively effects anybody who doesn't care for it. Don't even try that tired argument of it leading to players on 50s that have no idea how to play their jobs effectively. Plenty of people in game that have 50s legitimately who have no flipping clue how to play their jobs, let alone possess the hand-eye coordination, timing, and overall common sense to be able to play effectively. In fact most people end up needing to be told how to play their jobs by people who have figured it out for them, which in no way has a prerequisite of having leveled your job legitimately.

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I bet you are one of those who like to ruin other people fun tryin to tell them how to play their job even if you dont know it. I'm sorry but your comentary kinda makes me think this about you.

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Originally Posted by Noir

Who said you need to skip? I did all the content being lvl 50. Didn't skip a thing.

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Sure, beatin a dungeon of lv.25 monsters as a Lv.50 job as a god that can murder the final boss of it with a toothpick... how fun sound that....

PLing isnt a problem self, the problem is people abuse of it... they skip the fun part of low levels, besides, ok tell "start as Lv50" instead get PL'd sounds too much extreme, but i will give you something to think about this:

Imagine you be a new player to this game, startin with your new chracter, join a LS at your early low level. Lets say some nice person PL'd you from Lv.1 to 50 , you of course didnt got to play with no one else but with that guy PL'ing you, and actually you didnt play with him, as all you did was watch, ok, imagine you later on now as Lv.50 take your time soloing to learn you job and you did succesfully, but then now you want to do end game content, your AF quest, etc etc, but... oh wait since you got PL'd from 1 to 50, you didnt made a friend, you didnnt even got to meet other people enough except that guy who PL'd you.... you try and ask that guy PL'd you from 1 to 5o to do things togueter but oh... surprise, he already has a circle of friends (maybe even a static group) with who do raids, and you are not part of it, he maybe be nice enough to try help you alone but oh... he alone isnt enough to fullfill a party to do lets say avatars or any raid... so again its only you and him , good luck tryin stuff with a completelly random pick up party, ask the friends of your friend who PL'd you (considering he even your friend and up to do this) might be rather embarrasing but most importantly... most of times pointless... So in the end you end complainin no one helps you blah blah blah.... who you gona blame for this?

You still think PLing isnt an issue? it is... maybe you one of those lucky ones who have high level friends and will allow you to join them once you hitt 50, but what about those who doesnt have someone high level waitin for them? are you gona tell me "screw them, i dont care for them?" well, have you notices, you should care about it if you think you will be one of those who will ever complain "why not many people play this game?"

EDIT: *puts on Star wars fish mask* "PL is a Trap!, PLing is a traaaaap!!!!"

My main point of the previous post is, you maybe can tell me gamers can still do good , they can learn their job after get PL'd from 1-50, yes i agree to this fact i be seen this alot of times, i have PL'd people before.... but i can also say i be seen alot of people avoidin to play with ppl who has been got PL'd from1 to 50 cause they consider them "noobs", and dont tell me this isnt true, i see this situation almost everyday. So even if the gamer do good, he cant avoid beign judged anyways he doesnt knows how to play.

and on other hand, and to me most important aspect of leveling normal way, is to find friends and build bonds, and find a group with who do things, to me this is most important aspect of leveling normal way, and wich is pretty much lost if you get PL'd since begining. PL maybe be good once you leveled by normal means at least 1 job from 1 to 50 and got able to make friends of your own, but definetivelly i dont see this fit on people who just started game and dont even have a job past lv.25.

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Originally Posted by Noir

Have you heard of materia? It's a thing you can get with any gear. You don't need to sell your gear. Some people are clueless

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Have you tried to make decent gil off of tier 1-3 materia?

You're absolutely right. Some people really are clueless.

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Originally Posted by Amherst

Have you tried to make decent gil off of tier 1-3 materia?

You're absolutely right. Some people really are clueless.

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Humm , yes. 500k a piece. Plus 5 meld gear of lvl 1. You can double meld, triple meld gear. Have you heard of that? Or maybe you keep trying 5 meld with lvl 4 materia and keep getting the bust and dot know why

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Originally Posted by Noir

rabble rabble rabble

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Man, going through your forum history here it really is clear that you just like to bitch at everything at life that disagrees with you. How you manage to function is really a mystery.

In any case, I'm done. If you want to get your panties in a bunch over the fact that people don't like power leveling then more power to you. Don't need to continue this conversation. Crap like this is the entire reason I left Fabul in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Amherst

Man, going through your forum history here it really is clear that you just like to bitch at everything at life that disagrees with you. How you manage to function is really a mystery.

In any case, I'm done. If you want to get your panties in a bunch over the fact that people don't like power leveling then more power to you. Don't need to continue this conversation. Crap like this is the entire reason I left Fabul in the first place.

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Awww. Good riddance. Need a cuddle?

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Originally Posted by Sirakitty

I think Plíng sucks. im proud to say that i got all my jobs to 50 without that. i seen it on other people, they get bored of this game very fast and quit playing cause they had nutin to do anymore. maxed everything in just a short amount of time.

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The only thing you'd be missing out on is building Achievements and not all of them even, the main reason fangirls don't like PL ultimately is like it has been mentioned several times people don't know their jobs/stat allotments so are morally forced to spend months leveling to 50 for all jobs and not have a life outside the game. And they don't want people advancing in this game quicker than they did, they need to stay on their high horse for as long as possible, if it means discrediting a valid way of playing this game then a troll campaign like anti-PL starts.

But then they have to suffer elitist end game LSs and when someone takes a mere second longer to perform in pt they get abused severely rather than receiving gracious wisdom which should be coming from these types of elitists.

In the beginning I was against it but considering the blatant botting going on in this game and the other aspect of building character relationships from the broken party search system, PL is NOTHING! Get over it haterz! @_@;

When I see troll complaints like this, it reminds me of the Catholic Church vs Gay Marriage battle, pot calling kettle black!

Power leveling allowed me to burn through content and get to the more important things in xiv. Crafting and watching movies for hours on end.