I'm rooting for WoW

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Originally Posted by Ravi1313

To get good and take all their players back.

I'm not even kidding

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I am also rooting for WoW.

To clarify, I am rooting for 14's best future, too, because there is nothing wrong with playing two MMO games.

But...WoW would have to do a LOT to impress me at this point. Starting with a massive restructuring of management and including a total rework of the game on the same level and with same commitment that 14 showed when they remade 11.

WoW has hit a dead end. The story has been carried too far for too long and no longer supports itself. Vast segments of the game have served their brief purpose and been abandoned and left to rot, leaving only memories. The game itself shoves you into a narrow minded end game in hopes that you will forget all that there is about the game that is now utterly pointless.

WoW as it used to be is long since dead and only the occasional twitching of certain parts of it give the sense of life.

I hope not that WoW will be somehow restored, but that it will be completely reborn.

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Originally Posted by Ravi1313

To get good and take all their players back.

I'm not even kidding

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Even if WoW became absolutely amazing that's not going to happen on time for the queues to be alleviated. There isn't even a release date for 9.2 yet and there is no way that it's going to turn everything around. The trailer has gotten a lot of mixed reactions and they simply have not had enough time to fix the long list of glaring issues. Only a new expansion is going to be able to do that. It's frankly too much for a mere patch to fix.

Never mind how many WoW players have realised they're far happier in different games now than they ever were in WoW even when they thought it was great. And for some that game is FFXIV. Certainly I would give WoW another chance if the content looked good, but if a WoW content release overlapped with a FFXIV release there is no chance I would play WoW first.

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Originally Posted by Ravi1313

To get good and take all their players back.

I'm not even kidding

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that would be really hard for me, after seeing that shadowlands was just as bad as the last few wow xpacks i quit. to make sure i NEVER went back i deleted all my characters which meant i also deleted my spectral tiger mounts and other TCG rewards. i started ff14 in 2019 before covid and quit it when the queues were annoying here. they did make some improvement in the last couple of years, but not enough to keep me through 7-9k queues with HOURS of waiting just to get dropped. i figure 3-6 months before the queues get under an hour, i have no idea when i'll come back, an hour isnt it though.

I'm not, not anymore lmao
Blizz blew it bad and, for me personally, they'd have to magic a miracle out of the aether to make that game worth playing again. No way Blizz can manage that in time to kick these queues down to something reasonable before they do it on their own :p

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Originally Posted by xod

If they wanted the parts, and wanted to pay the premium to get them, they could. A shortage doesnt mean theres none it means theyre more expensive. It's corporate greed.

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Paying more does not make the supply of something magically increase. Shortage literally means not enough exists to meet the demands. Only so many are being made to be sold, this means that SE is competing with other billion and trillion dollar companies, all also paying premiums and even extra to get what supply is available. Simply throwing money at something does not negate supply shortages.

Honestly ff14 has plenty of players that enjoy wow.

Heck yoshi himself likes wow. Most people want wow to be good competition is good and helps both games get better.

Likewise you should be rooting for ff14. The queues are indeed bad, but indicative of massive success.

It be hard for any mmo to take on a large portion of wow over night and wow basically having another below average expansion, and a massive scandal simultaneously likely hit square by surprise.

I mean I certainly expected more out of shadow lands and the large scale scandal hit me out of the blue anyways.

Personally I'd wow love wow to see queues again.

WoW won't get many of their players back that have already left.

I know that I will NEVER touch a Blizzard product ever again.

One way or another, we need more healthy competition in the MMO market.

I am too, honestly. I started playing WoW last year at the end of BfA until SL came out and that's where it ended for me. Was quick lol.
Classic is waaaay more fun but I miss the QoL that's in retail as well. Blizzard just really screwed up, from the game itself to the scandals.
It's really a shame, because it's an awesome game but the direction and Big wigs are all over the place and are quitting/resigning.

I'm one of few people that I know who like WoW more than XIV but even I see it's plethora worth of issues.
It'll take a miracle for it to have it's glory restore though and it needs to start with removing all the bad apples in the staff....Like clueless Ion lol
and having people actually listen to their playerbase and give a crap about them.

WoW died years ago, people just clung to it. Even if WoW released a good expansion I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. Disgusting Dev team aside, the amount of content, key storyline, relics, mounts and minions they've straight up deleted over the years or attached to 6 month subs to create their FOMO effect make it pointless to even consider going back if you want to dedicate to an MMO. There's far too much you'll just never get. Plus they'd have to redesign the entire game at this stage. Too much treadmills, facebook mission tables, pathfinders, rush to endgame, the faction split and other ingrained aspects of the game that just ruin it. It's beyond repair.

I'd rather FF14 just got servers (and tank/heal designers). The launch is a shambles. The expansion itself is brilliant.