I hate when my husband is right.

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

Every game is different and I'm not a developer, I'm guessing like everyone else. However pointing and saying "but that game did it" with no knowledge of the processes involved whatsoever isn't a great look. There are myriad problems and this is an old game. I'm honestly surprised with the amount of new stuff they continually manage to squeeze out of it without completely redoing things. So grouse if you like, but everything seems fine now.

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I don't buy that but each own. This is a server thing not really a game thing. This is not a game engine issue.


But you can believe what you want. I don't give the developers a pass on this. They knew it was going be a issue. Figuring out a way to let us keep our queue if we get dc is the least they can do.

It's probably a technical limitation due to how the console connections work or something.

I imagine they would have if they could.

Never expect to play on demand. Most mmorpgs ToS state access is not guaranteed, I'd imagine this to be the same.

Take a walk or something.

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Originally Posted by Jadedsins

I don't buy that but each own. This is a server thing not really a game thing. This is not a game engine issue.

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I think I did state it was more to do with how the servers, login, lobby, character and data center talk to each other.

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Originally Posted by Jadedsins

But you can believe what you want. I don't give the developers a pass on this. They knew it was going be a issue. Figuring out a way to let us keep our queue if we get dc is the least they can do.

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.. thanks for the permission. I'm sure they're distraught that they didn't please you and are itching for your forgiveness. The least they can do is absolutely nothing. However they warned us, did what they could to upgrade the infrastructure and even pushed to try and add even more but that wasn't possible. The entire time being as transparent as they possibly could. Considering you have absolutely no idea what it would take to do what you want, I'd take a less demanding tone. Yes they knew it was going to happen. They even specifically mentioned the 2002 errors in that last caveat before early release. I think if it was easy, it would probably have been done.

But .. yknow.. keep being mad about stuff that happened yesterday. That's... something you can do.

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Originally Posted by Jin-

There isnt a single game which does not have these issues :P

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I might not play enough games then, because I don't know many triple A MMOs with constant random disconnection and dx11 crashes.

And this was before today. The only difference now is that you are punished with 30 minute queues for the company's incompetence at fixing long standing issues.

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

I think I did state it was more to do with how the servers, login, lobby, character and data center talk to each other.



.. thanks for the permission. I'm sure they're distraught that they didn't please you and are itching for your forgiveness. The least they can do is absolutely nothing. However they warned us, did what they could to upgrade the infrastructure and even pushed to try and add even more but that wasn't possible. The entire time being as transparent as they possibly could. Considering you have absolutely no idea what it would take to do what you want, I'd take a less demanding tone. Yes they knew it was going to happen. They even specifically mentioned the 2002 errors in that last caveat before early release. I think if it was easy, it would probably have been done.

But .. yknow.. keep being mad about stuff that happened yesterday. That's... something you can do.

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You are welcome, and I just don't buy your answer. They knew it was going to be big queues and most of us did not have a problem with it, but having a system that saves your place in queue if you get dc. They could at least come out and say they can't do it. I figure they would learn.

Im annoyed not mad, but thanks for assuming *golf clap* now done answering you.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

I might not play enough games then, because I don't know many triple A MMOs with constant random disconnection and dx11 crashes.

And this was before today. The only difference now is that you are punished with 30 minute queues for the company's incompetence at fixing long standing issues.

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You missed wows launch then.

Game was unplayable for most of the first two weeks and longer on some servers.

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Originally Posted by Imora

You missed wows launch then.

Game was unplayable for most of the first two weeks and longer on some servers.

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Which was when? 2002? When MMOs were relatively new and not mainstream so events such as this weren't common so they didn't have the benefit of in hindsight?

It's been almost 20 years now and technology has advanced.

And also we are supposed to be ff good, not wow bad.

This is why I don't take time off on a MMO launch.

Not to mention that as a lot of people have admitted in all these threads, using illegal 3rd party programs allows you to connect to the game in minutes with no issues at all.

A bunch of hackers can create a better launcher than Squarenix.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

Not to mention that as a lot of people have admitted in all these threads, using illegal 3rd party programs allows you to connect to the game in minutes with no issues at all.

A bunch of hackers can create a better launcher than Squarenix.

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you mean "allows you to connect to the game in minutes to the detriment of others", that's a kinda big difference.

on the point of the thread, does this really happen to you (all) ? because square does in fact save your position in queue, at least under some circumstances.

i'm in discord right now with about 15 people, one got her account restricted while logging in because of suspicious activity and was asked to change her password. took her a few minutes to sort it out, afterwards she signed back up right in the queue position where she left off. another person had a dx11 crash while logging in, same thing, he got back in right where he left off.

so yea, don't know when and how but there is at least some protection actually in place.