The problem isn't the detail or quality of the art, it's that people don't understand what concept art is and how it actually works and think that it means anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lihtleita
In Overwatch there is a *very* prevelant narrative that Ashe was meant to be black and that she was '' whitewashed '' because she was black in one of the early concepts.
It's the same with Au'Ra too a lot of people will say that they were '' supposed to be '' beastly/ demonic because they were in some of the concept art.
Devs don't just make one drawing and then call it a day and just because they have one idea doesn't mean that it's the only idea or the one they'll even go with.
It also doesn't mean that what is on the page is even what they're planning not everything needs to be drawn out and some things can be done simply by communicating with the 3D modellers or they'll change it on their own per instructed by the director.
Things change during development, and I also think that is going to be the case here because Female Hrothgar weren't planned but now they are and they're going back to the drawing board.
Like there's so much context that is missing with this too, it's completely pointless to read into it and I also think it's just perpetuating some weird narrative against the devs and what they're doing.
It's not even a confirmation of them having hair, it's not a confirmation of anything at all.
The cat's (or femhroth in this case) outta the bag
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09-05-2021, 07:22 AMKolsykol
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09-05-2021, 07:31 AMHeyMcFlyQuote:
Originally Posted by FawkesWyznfarr
There are way better, more polite ways to offer constructive criticism.
Ever wonder why SE pretty much ignores NA forums? The hostility most likely.
It's just a little concept of a long dead character, nothing being set in stone & if that is the final result, it'd only be 1 of 4 faces.
I quite like the idea of have a delicate face among them.
Let's just wait & see. -
09-05-2021, 07:33 AMLisSquid
I'd also argue that while that is concept art of the queen, it's not concept art of female Hrothgar. Aymeric is an Elezen but uses a completely different head than a male Elezen. Also, see Fran and playable female Viera.
NPC privilege is that they are distinct from the player characters, and that should be kept in mind. -
09-05-2021, 08:10 AMNightingaile
Considering how hideous most male Hroths are, I think it would be lovely if the females looked like this... might even be tempted to play one.
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09-05-2021, 10:39 AMNestamaWhether you like my argument or not is irrelevant, as it's the point I'm trying to get across. If you want to play a (female) mostly human race with animal features, you have plenty of options to do so. Male Hrothgar have bestial faces, so the females should as well (the image you posted before of the gender swapped Kimahri is something I'm not too much of a fan of. The face is too human and also no fur, something female Ronso in FFX do have).Quote:
Originally Posted by Skivvy
Here's a few examples (artist Karmaho) of the kind of face I would prefer to see for female Hrothgar. In spoiler box because three pictures
Basically just hoping that SE make the two genders of Hrothgar actually make sense. It would be extremely jarring for the males to be a furry beast and the females to be Miqo'te's third clan.
Also I don't buy the "it needs to be popular" argument because then SE wouldn't have made Hrothgar in the first place. -
09-05-2021, 11:10 AMKaijinRhadaI always loved Karmaho's take on female Hrothgar. And I agree that following along the lines of "monstrous male lingerie model female counterparts" would feel like a waste. Considering that there are plenty of typically pretty females to choose from, something that breaks the mould wouldn't be bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nestama
They don't have to go as far as GW2 did with female Charr (though I absolutely love them), I just want them to be a bit adventurous and add a bestial looking female to match with the bestial looking males they already have. A race shouldn't be made on the basis of how popular they are, they should be made, because the developers want them, and to add a choice of aesthetics to the players. -
09-05-2021, 12:01 PMClaire_Pendragon
Im not playing one regardless, but im fine with which ever they make.
now, as a side note, objectively, they are most likely going to just be blue miqote, since thats what "most" people would see in a trailer and say "Oh, i want to play that game".
A smaller percentage of ppl are the ones who would want a more furry design. (and VERY vocal about it, sounding quite larger than the actual results would reflect)
But since we already have blue lizard girls, and miqote, it would be plenty reasonable to have a furry instead, but SE higher ups most likely wont view the information that way. -
09-05-2021, 12:03 PMZanarkand-RonsoMy Body is ReadyQuote:
Originally Posted by Fyrebrand
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09-05-2021, 12:08 PMZanarkand-RonsoThe Bloody Curse that is the Beauty and the Beast Trope...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsiron
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09-05-2021, 01:30 PMNeoyoshi
As long as i can marry a female hrothgar.
Imagine a short midlander fool such as myself standing next to a tall furryvampirelady as we walk down the aisle
I can dream. :'D