SCH, Energy Drain, and 6.0

The reason aetherflow is like it is, is because SE keep trying to get rid of it instead of working with it as it has always been a core component of the job

really, the fairy gauge is the thing that needs deleting. That second gauge has just then..there for lack of a better term. It affects fey union and fey blessing. Fey blessing didn't used to require anything on eos, and fey union could very easily be a cooldown.

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Originally Posted by inhaledcorn

Emergency Tactics is such a garbage skill, and you're still eating the massive MP cost for using it. Putting it on a 15s cooldown doesn't make up for the fact that you have to rely on several cooldowns what the other two healers can do with either one direct cooldown or a direct GCD. And, if you're using Emergency Tactics to just get to full HP, then that's an overheal you could have used on a shield since the essential healing would have given you more if you got the shield.

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how is ET adlo worse than physick? and how is using ET for the purpose of restoring hp when theres already a shield "overheal" ? all emergency tactics does is change the shield part of adlo/succor into a direct heal. it doesn't change the total potency of the skills at all.

i also dont know why you bring up the mp cost when other healers also pay mp for gcd heals? emergency tactics is quite literally on the bottom of the priority list for healing as well. you say that other healers can do what ET gcds do with 1 skill, but so can scholar. if you need immediate hp theres indom/excog/lustrate (recitated or not); and if you DONT need immediate hp you dont even need to use ET on the gcd in the first place, not to mention there's also aetherpact/whispering dawn/sacred soil.

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Originally Posted by inhaledcorn

Emergency Tactics is such a garbage skill, and you're still eating the massive MP cost for using it. Putting it on a 15s cooldown doesn't make up for the fact that you have to rely on several cooldowns what the other two healers can do with either one direct cooldown or a direct GCD.

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Scholar does not have to be good at literally everything.

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Originally Posted by Semirhage

Scholar does not have to be good at literally everything.

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*points to AST being good at literally everything*

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Originally Posted by Recon1o6

The reason aetherflow is like it is, is because SE keep trying to get rid of it instead of working with it as it has always been a core component of the job

really, the fairy gauge is the thing that needs deleting. That second gauge has just then..there for lack of a better term. It affects fey union and fey blessing. Fey blessing didn't used to require anything on eos, and fey union could very easily be a cooldown.

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Oh, hey, remember when Greased Lightning was a core mechanic of Monk that everyone agreed was holding it back, so SE got rid of it and now people generally agree it's a better job?

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Originally Posted by inhaledcorn

Oh, hey, remember when Greased Lightning was a core mechanic of Monk that everyone agreed was holding it back, so SE got rid of it and now people generally agree it's a better job?

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You sure about that?
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...but-with-no-GL.

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Originally Posted by Absurdity

You sure about that?
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...but-with-no-GL.

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*read beyond the first post*

Yeah, actually. Drak and people beyond the first post are saying that what they have now is likely temporary just so it can function because so many skills are just going to GL maintenance. They even mentioned they don't want something like Aetherflow for Monk, so, uh, thanks for proving my point?

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Originally Posted by inhaledcorn

*points to AST being good at literally everything*

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And WHM being the only healer whose identity is having holes in its kit would get dunked on yet again. Like Stormblood.

Either the healers all have weaknesses or they all don't. Squeenix has proven time and again they will never give WHM utility. AST and SCH either get weaknesses or they're just plain better. I'd rather not have the overpowered wonder twins back. Nerf AST instead.

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Originally Posted by inhaledcorn

Oh, hey, remember when Greased Lightning was a core mechanic of Monk that everyone agreed was holding it back, so SE got rid of it and now people generally agree it's a better job?

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Remember when sch had aetherflow dumps other than energy drain that formed a core part of scholar's dps and healing it such as shadowflare, fester, original aetherflow and original lustrate?

Those other things sch's complained about being stripped away and losing its tactical decision making yeah, those.

Aetherflow is a much more popular and vital mechanic. Greased lightning's problem was the devs, like with healers funadmentally refusing to understand how monk plays (you keep GL up as much as you could, NEVER burn it out...so monk had 5 GL spenders because devs never tested monk or looked to see how it played)

The other point about GL was that the fight design has changed since then to be outright crippling monk and removing gl every few mechanics. The reason everyone is mixed in that thread is because 2.0 monk is square 1 which just shows how monk regressed each expansion instead of getting better

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Originally Posted by Recon1o6

Remember when sch had aetherflow dumps other than energy drain that formed a core part of scholar's dps and healing it such as shadowflare, fester, original aetherflow and original lustrate?

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Umm... SCH never had any of those things, at least not how you indicate. To start SCH did have Shadowflare, like SMN, but it was a spell until SB where it was turned into an ability, then in ShB it was removed from both.

Fester was never a SCH skill, it has always been SMN exclusive. I'm not sure if you played SMN/SCH prior to ShB, but Fester was always a job exclusive skill SMN got at 30. It was only in ShB that the skill was moved into the ACN portion of leveling. Probably a jab at the old ARR memes of a SMN just being an ACN with Fester, lol.

Atherflow, for. SCH, hasn't changed at all, the skill still functions as it always has. The only change, that both makes sense, but is still annoying, is the MP regained from the skill. It use to be 20% but is now 10%. What it does has changed, but it's functionality is the same. This is not the case with the SMN version of Energy Drain, which use to be identical to the SCH version, but now performs a different function.

Similarly, Lustrate still serves the same purpose, it was just changed to a flat potency heal instead of a percentage heal. Which was a good move given the current state of HP pools. If the percentage was still as it was, SCH would be broken, as they would heal around 40,000k+ HP on a tank. Though, I'll admit the time may have come for Lustrate to get a little boost in potency.

Anyway, the point I'm expressing is that Energy Drain is, and has always been SCHs only for of DPS for Aetherflow. Shadowflare never used a stack, SCH never had Fester, and Aetherflow and Lustrate are the same skills they've always been, just changed slightly.