A good old boyish cott

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Originally Posted by LariaKirin

You speak for people who quit healing?

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No, I just read the comments of the people who say they've quit healing, the poster gave a pretty limited scope. So we are talking about people who quit healing and post on the forums, as the "irony" was over people quitting healing but still posting on the forums religiously.

That narrows down the group quite a bit and helpfully so because said people post about it. And as one who is on the healer forum a lot, I've read their posts.

And I almost fall into the group myself, I quit my main healer, I quit being a healer main and I will heal on AST Noct every so often.

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Originally Posted by Cyrocco

I'll admit I somewhat indulge in the irony of how players who have "quit" healing still come to the healer forum religiously.

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Not sure how that's ironic when the forums are the one place to go to give feedback about the game. I doubt very seriously anyone wanted to hate healing.

Despite my own hypocrisy of engaging in this stuff, I cant help but be amused by the fact it's always the same 2-3 people crying about this topic and even taking the topic to other forums.

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Originally Posted by Brandedblade

Despite my own hypocrisy of engaging in this stuff, I cant help but be amused by the fact it's always the same 2-3 people crying about this topic and even taking the topic to other forums.

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As its usually the same people crying about people 'crying', why don't we just put aside our differences and cry together?


Putting b****ing aside. We have our complaints, you disagree with them, which is fine. You previously expressed the reason for your non-constructive posts was because nobody listens, I've since engaged you, but I'm starting to get the impression you just don't like that people don't agree with you.

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Originally Posted by Saefinn

As its usually the same people crying about people 'crying', why don't we just put aside our differences and cry together?


Putting b****ing aside. We have our complaints, you disagree with them, which is fine. You previously expressed the reason for your non-constructive posts was because nobody listens, I've since engaged you, but I'm starting to get the impression you just don't like that people don't agree with you.

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I mean, it is better to cry then to repress your emotions.

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Originally Posted by Brandedblade

I mean, it is better to cry then to repress your emotions.

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That much I can agree with.

I don't think I would boycott being a healer, I think it would be the worst idea to express our concerns for our healer classes. Best thing we can do is give feedback and suggestions on how our classes would feel better, play better or overall be fun again. It might take some time for our concerns to be heard but I do believe they haven't forgotten about us. I think they just need some time and our patience.

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Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura

I don't think I would boycott being a healer, I think it would be the worst idea to express our concerns for our healer classes. Best thing we can do is give feedback and suggestions on how our classes would feel better, play better or overall be fun again. It might take some time for our concerns to be heard but I do believe they haven't forgotten about us. I think they just need some time and our patience.

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The best would to clearly identified what do you think is wrong. Because :
- some complains about no dps rotation -a lot past SCH it seems, as AST haven't move and WHM so little- but having SUM and SCH tied together with a lot a common skills was a mistake in the first place (according to Yoshi-P, and i agree).
- some wanna have less down time : two problem in one :the more you are good, the more downtime you will have, same on gear, and it's more an encounter design issue than job one.
- some wanna healer to be more different from each other (same could be said for tanks). Issue : SE don't want to have some encounter which requires some specific job. Having the same base line allong all healer maybe seems to be a lazy solution, but it may also be the best one.

And the most important thing : A lot of player are actually happy with the current iterations (or at least, they don't mind) : No solution can make everyone happy.

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Originally Posted by Sparkthor

The best would to clearly identified what do you think is wrong. Because :
- some complains about no dps rotation -a lot past SCH it seems, as AST haven't move and WHM so little- but having SUM and SCH tied together with a lot a common skills was a mistake in the first place (according to Yoshi-P, and i agree).
- some wanna have less down time : two problem in one :the more you are good, the more downtime you will have, same on gear, and it's more an encounter design issue than job one.
- some wanna healer to be more different from each other (same could be said for tanks). Issue : SE don't want to have some encounter which requires some specific job. Having the same base line allong all healer maybe seems to be a lazy solution, but it may also be the best one.

And the most important thing : A lot of player are actually happy with the current iterations (or at least, they don't mind) : No solution can make everyone happy.

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I can assure you "Most" Of the Astro are not happy with how they killed off their uniqueness of the class with the current system in place. Those who complained about fishing for a balance never really appreciated the Variety of having different ways to go about the class which was a VERY small minority.

At least the same minority as the forum or the reddit ones. Also i didn't mention the AST card case because i think the old system to be a big broken mess (few will agree with me but whatever). And some people haven't even given a chance to the new one. Moreover, it would be known if the only issue with AST was the card one. MP issue, noct sect ones are way more revelent.