Alternate outfits for Trusts

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Originally Posted by Packetdancer

The twins might take a bit more work, since I'd be shocked if most gear had a variant for the 'Elezen youth' body; players can't use it, so there's no reason for it. (Plus it seems that the twins share a body—along with every other Elezen child you ever encounter. If you examine the game's resources in a model view, I'm fairly sure difference in body shape between the twins is part of Alisaie's outfits, not the actual character model. Which means even if outfits might work on Alphinaud with minor tweaks, Alisaie would probably require custom ones.)

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Shadowbringers shifted from giving them completely custom models to repurposing standard gear.

Alphinaud is now using gloves that look to be a scaled-down version of the adult Elezen model, and - while I haven't actually compared them side by side, I'm fairly sure it's changed the size of his hands as a result.

Alisaie is using a standard tunic now (plus the cuffs from her Stormblood coat which are probably part of the hand model). Presumably they just take the adult female version and shrink it down to fit, maybe with some tweaks but not building from scratch.

Still, even if it's technically simple, it may also be a character design thing - keeping them with one or two distinct recognisable outfits.

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Originally Posted by Nalien

Thancred needs his Nutkin outfit.

That is all.

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I read through the entire thread looking for this.

Glad to see I'm not the only one to immediately think of this...

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Originally Posted by Packetdancer

Every one of the Scions (save Alphinaud and Alisaie) use standard player bodies and animations just with custom faces/hair; with the possible exception in some cases of headgear, they can codewise wear anything a player can. Adding more outfits for everyone but the twins would be trivial; you'd just go 'hey, let them use this existing gear for glamour'.

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I'm pretty sure Ryne's model is unique, as well.

Plus, giving Ryne a "swimsuit option", as per the suggestion in the original post, is just begging for another outraged forum thread. <_<;;

I'm pretty sure SE would want to limit Alisaie's clothing options, as well. While she DOES dress in girly clothes, they tend to dress her up in ways to promote the "Half-Identical Twins" trope, downplaying her feminine curves (which she may or may not have) so that she looks more like her brother.

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

Plus, giving Ryne a "swimsuit option", as per the suggestion in the original post, is just begging for another outraged forum thread. <_<;;

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I don't think the swimsuit thing would happen especially since Yoshi personally addressed people sexualizing her.

Besides, Ryne does have an alternate outfit now that I'd love for them to add to her by not only reaching level 80 like the others, but also completion of content involving the outfit to avoid spoilers.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Shadowbringers shifted from giving them completely custom models to repurposing standard gear.

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Oh! That would definitely make it easier on the art department (at least potentially) than it would've been in Stormblood, then. In theory you could just repurpose any existing PC gear, then.

Mind you, I would love to see them do the reverse and give more NPC outfits to PCs; there's no reason I can see that Lyse's Ala Mhigan outfit—or Yotsuyu's outfits, for that matter—shouldn't codewise work on PCs, short of maybe needing racial variants for lalafell and such. Put 'em in the Mog Station if nothing else! (Look, I really want that Ala Mhigan outfit as dancer glam...)

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

I'm pretty sure Ryne's model is unique, as well.

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You're actually probably right; I haven't dug into the ShB models, because when I was poking around curiously at the models and animations in the file I was still in late Stormblood content and I wanted to avoid spoilers, so stayed out of higher-numbered NPC models in the resources. I completely didn't think about Ryne in my summary there.

(Former game dev; I can't help myself, I have to poke at the engine of anything I'm playing just out of innate curiosity.)

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

I'm pretty sure Ryne's model is unique, as well.

I'm pretty sure SE would want to limit Alisaie's clothing options, as well. While she DOES dress in girly clothes, they tend to dress her up in ways to promote the "Half-Identical Twins" trope, downplaying her feminine curves (which she may or may not have) so that she looks more like her brother.

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Ryne seems to be using a scaled-down female Midlander model, judging from her emotes. (And I think her face might be based on an Au Ra model?)

And I don't feel like they've really followed the "half-identical twins" thing beyond their original outfits, and that they've never changed hairstyles to potentially look different.