Can we talk about the elephant in the room - Permanent Bans from the Official Forums

They'd also probably ban the botters that regularly get report spammed by people simply on the assumption that they must be doing something wrong to warrant such behavior, so I'd be cool with that.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

In all my time playing MMOs, I have learned that people rarely tell the truth behind the reason why they were banned. The threads of "OMG I WAS PERMA-BANNED FOR NO REASON!" are usually quite entertaining when it comes to light that they were actually doing bad things.
I do realize that innocent people may sometimes get caught in the net, however, it seems a bit less likely when it comes to forum posting. People need to realize that SE likes to keep this place G/PG rated. If you're tossing out swear words or causing issues, there's a good chance you'll at least get reported by someone, which may then lead to a ban of some sort. We don't know how many infractions it takes to work up to a perma-ban, but it's probably best to not test your luck.

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Anywhere from 1 to 3. I got 2. Bans can overlap as well. So if you're in a midst of one ban, you'll get another and eventually it equals complete termination.
Not only that, you can even join forum events such as Design votes. At the very least we should be able to Like things...but you're barred for good.
Just going off by what others said as far the others.

Being on these forums are like having the skin ripped off the soles of yer feet and walking on poisoned-coated, nettled infested eggshells.
I mean they are so damn strict on these here forums, but you got people telling others to literally kill themselves in the game some times
or just purely being a jerk nugget. Also as far as P/G stuff...hmm, well the game has Prostitution, child labour, killing people and other stuff.
But hooo boy, you said the F word just because on the forums? Adios!
Spend way too much time here playing Forum Hero to do anything about in-game problems though. :eyes:

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Originally Posted by Rockette

As I mentioned, things weren't discussed in game. The account that was banned was a friend. As I also mentioned, I don't want to give details or derail this thread with gossip that is, actually, none of your business.

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So you come to the forums with an anecdotal story about a friend being banned, one that you cannot provide details about, but then blow it up to try and make it sound like it's happening all the time on your server. Got it.

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Originally Posted by Rockette

No one has to "prove" anything to you bud. You're not that important. So how about getting off your high horse before jumping down a strangers throat regarding something you know nothing about. Obviously I'm not going to start naming people (against the tos) or starting a witch hunt (also against tos) and quite honestly, just out of respect for other players. Surely you grasp that concept. I understand that everyone gets in everyone's personal business on Balmung and the slander/gossip is a way of the game but that's not how I will play, sorry.

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And now becuase I don't agree with you regarding "mass bannings" being out of control, and questioned a story you provided (which seems to be falling apart), I'm suddenly on my high horse?. If you have to resort to insults, claiming that I'm on my high horse, implying I think I'm super important, going on about Balmung being gossip-city, it would seem you have no interest in an actual conversation at this point.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

So you come to the forums with an anecdotal story about a friend being banned, one that you cannot provide details about, but then blow it up to try and make it sound like it's happening all the time on your server. Got it.
And now becuase I don't agree with you regarding "mass bannings" being out of control, and questioned a story you provided (which seems to be falling apart), I'm suddenly on my high horse?. If you have to resort to insults, claiming that I'm on my high horse, implying I think I'm super important, going on about Balmung being gossip-city, it would seem you have no interest in an actual conversation at this point.

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It is an ancedotal story, yes, because I won't give personal details about it which I've explained to you now, twice. Like I said, I understand that you want facts so you can point and say "they deserve it" but no matter how much you harrass me, I will not give you names or details so you can start a witch hunt or "judge" if they deserved a ban. Also, I haven't blown anything up. You're the one repeatedly asking for more gossip. Of course its easy to sit back and say Ha! you won't tell me what I want to know! Therefore you're wrong!

You didn't answer my question. Are you asking everyone in this thread about their ancedotal stories? Or have you just picked mine to start a fight over.

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Originally Posted by Rockette

It is an ancedotal story, yes, because I won't give personal details about it which I've explained to you now, twice. Like I said, I understand that you want facts so you can point and say "they deserve it" but no matter how much you harrass me, I will not give you names or details.

You didn't answer my question. Are you asking everyone in this thread about their ancedotal stories? Or have you just picked mine to start a fight over.

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To answer your question, I'm not needing stories from everyone in the thread. No one else has made crazy claims about a prolific couple that antagonizes people in shout chats in an attempt to get people banned, where the first person to slip up gets banned. That sounds like a rather iffy situation! You were asking for someone to question that. And then when someone dares question you, you go on the attack. You don't win points that way.

I do not appreciate people who fabricate or embellish stories to try and make a point.

*rides off into sunset on my high horse*

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

To answer your question, I'm not needing stories from everyone in the thread. No one else has made crazy claims about a prolific couple that antagonizes people in shout chats in an attempt to get people banned, where the first person to slip up gets banned. That sounds like a rather iffy situation! You were asking for someone to question that. And then when someone dares question you, you go on the attack. You don't win points that way.

I do not appreciate people who fabricate or embellish stories to try and make a point.

*rides off into sunset on my high horse*

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Calm down. I'm from Rockettes server. I know exactly who he/she is talking about. Anyone that has been vaguely involved in the hunt scene does.

Obviously no one can give names out on the forums without getting banned. No one can answer your "interview questions" without it being called slander. You cannot call someone a liar when they cannot post against the rules of the forums. Especially in a thread about getting banned over trivial reasons.

To contribute to the topic at hand: I was banned for 2 weeks for calling an obvious troll an idiot after they were jumping from thread to thread posting ridiculous stuff. Sure, its against the rules. Was it worth 2 weeks? I don't know. But I don't post here as much if I don't have anything to say that isn't completely game related / bug reporting. Not worth it.

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Originally Posted by Tigerlilley

Calm down. I'm from Rockettes server. I know exactly who he/she is talking about. Anyone that has been vaguely involved in the hunt scene does.

Obviously no one can give names out on the forums without getting banned. No one can answer your "interview questions" without it being called slander. You cannot call someone a liar when they cannot post against the rules of the forums. Especially in a thread about getting banned over trivial reasons.

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Oh cheers, back-up! I'm also perfectly calm, more amused by this "conversation" than anything at this point.

So what you and Rockette both seem to be missing, is my question about interviewing everyone was to question the validity of this comment:

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Originally Posted by Rockette

The fact that its so easy to get banned both here and in game hasn't gone unnoticed by players. There are a prolific couple on my server who encourage and taunt people into shout chat fights in attempts to report them and get them banned. Over hunts, no less. It's almost a game now. First one to slip up gets their account taken off them. No matter how long they've played, the communities they run, the passion they have for the game. One 'naughty' word to the wrong person and bam. All gone. The GM's / Mods don't care.

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Based on the wording, it would seem many people have been banned from this particular act. When I questioned it, they eventually confirmed it was just one person, a friend. I never once asked for names, and I honestly do not care for them, I don't get why this is even a concern?

Perhaps there is a problem on Behemoth with people doing this, but it's probably best to not make grand claims and speak in absolutes when trying to make a point that you have absolutely no way of backing up.

You asked for details to prove the story which would involve names. I don't believe that OP is making grand claims knowing what I know about that hunt community in particular. It seems right on the nose.

It seems you are taking a personal issue with OP in particular in order to keyboard warrior a forum fight.

Anyways, I don't want to post here anymore. Feels risky. Good luck with your high horse in the sunset.

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Originally Posted by Rockette

It's become a meme elsewhere in FFXIV communities, how many long term players are permanently banned from these forums.

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Well just try to follow the guidelines. I am very passionate when it comes to certain decisions the so called "localization team" has made over the years, specifically the translation of the BLM spells. I try my best to give my opinion in a respectful tone but its difficult. I never gave up on FFXIV. I started on September 22, 2010, I stuck it out when Yoshi-p took over and if it wasn't for the option to switch to the native version of FFXIV I would be gone. Not that they really care, at least the localization team but I digress. Just stick to the forum guidelines.