Carbuncle mounts have arrived!

I have no issue paying for ingame item with real money on F2P game, but with the current FFXIV's situation (B2P with subscription and only the minimal amount of content spoon-feeded every three + month) I find releasing such item in the cash shop isn't normal and indicates a lack of respect toward the customers.

The current FFXIV's experience isn't any better to those of random F2P MMO games and yet the amount of cash shop items grows by the day.

Dear SE, I hate you. :)

You started the cash shop to give us old event items and yet we get more and more exclusive mounts, pets and emotes in there that never ever touched the game before that. Why not make it an event price instead of giving us just another head that barely anyone would wear?

Honestly just selling the wedding and the fantasia should get you enough of an income and since SB the jump potions too..I had one last bit of hope that you would be sensitive enough to finally give us such unique mounts ingame but yet we will just get re-colors for the next primal and maybe instead of a couch we will get a desk as a mount..

Also that much money for such a short emote...I just cant..

But hey, at least you can dye the costumes.

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Originally Posted by Driavna

That does not make "vanity only" argument more valid, all are you doing is making a case for "is not that bad".

Level boosters and story skip potions are not vanity items, your argument about "nothing influences endgame whatsoever" is again just a case for "is not that bad".

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I'll grant you the skip potions. Your stance essentially boils down to because you value aesthetics, everything should be obtainable for free. That doesn't make my stance invalid, just that you disagree with the premise.

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Originally Posted by Jxnibbles

I really don't mind the Cash Shop but I hate when people say its vanity only. No its not however small the stats its P2W.

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That's absurd. P2W necessitates a winning state. You don't "win" anything with these stat bonus. In fact, the defensive stats are so low tanks would explode entering Haukke Manor wearing the set.

I glad Carby mount it's not item code from carbuncle hats. I was really scared for some time after they dig out carbuncle mounts and attire. I really don't care about them being a cash shop item. I can live without them (that's not true), they don't give me any advantage in the game and I still have some pretty mounts from the game for "free". You guys gives few F2P games price as an example but you ignored price from the most "biggest" and "oldest" MMO - World of Warcraft where mounts cost around 25$/20 euro. Final Fantasy XIV receive a lot of attention and new players after SB release and we got few price rise because of that. Our crying about it gonna change nothing. We still get a lot of free stuff. It would be great if we get such item for free but be realistic here - it not gonna happens.

Found some clips of the emote on reddit.

Female Au Ra
Female Roegadyn
Male Miqo'te

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

That's absurd. P2W necessitates a winning state. You don't "win" anything with these stat bonus. In fact, the defensive stats are so low tanks would explode entering Haukke Manor wearing the set.

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Yes a level 1 can pay to get stats, they can pay to get ahead in Msq, get ahead with a job boost, get a retainer ahead with a retainer job boost. That is P2W.. While the stats are not very meaningful they can be used to get a level 1 ahead.

I also remember reading our Cash Shop was meant for vanity.

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Originally Posted by Driavna

Level boosters and story skip potions are not vanity items, [...]

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And to add to that: Neither are Retainers. Retainers are storage, market board slots and ventures, the latter of which is a source of ingame income (And not even a terrible one at that).

Personally, I'm just sad that my subscription automatically pays for items and content I have absolutely no interest in, but I have to pay extra for items from the shop that I would actually use. I really don't need Ultimate content in my life, I'd rather get a free vanity item a year or sth.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

P2W necessitates a winning state.

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And a winning state necessitates a competition that separates winners from losers. Which in turn means that swathes of PvE content cannot be P2W ever, because most of the content is non-competitive and any rules, winning conditions or states would have to be set by yourself as the game doesn't set any. Such may include but are not limited to being the first in the world to clear content X, having the prettiest carbuncle glamour, getting from 1 to 70 first, getting the furthest in PotD solo or being the first across a set track in Shirogane. You can put anything as win condition here and thus make anything P2W if you feel so inclined.

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Originally Posted by Jxnibbles

Yes a level 1 can pay to get stats, they can pay to get ahead in Msq, get ahead with a job boost, get a retainer ahead with a retainer job boost. That is P2W.. While the stats are not very meaningful they can be used to get a level 1 ahead.

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This items is not exactly P2W. But it depends of the point of view. For me P2W means that the items you bought give you advantage in the end game. Like for example if you could buy whole genji set - that could be P2W items. Whole Ala Mhigan crafting set? 345 illvl weapon only for cash? Or set of additional 100 levequests if you already burn all of your free ones. If I save some time buying jump potion to lvl 60 I still need to level up to 70. I hardly see what advantage in game give me jump potion for the reteiners besides few additional items they can give me for some minor crafting recipes.

I'm honestly pretty disgusted with S-E over this, there have been people asking for these mounts since 1.0 and instead of giving people a chance to earn them they decide to nickel and dime people, had it been any other mount i'd have been more accepting but this is pretty sickening to me.

I'll be honest, it has made me doubt if i want to resub once my sub is up(if they'd stoop this low i expect them to do more in the future) but i guess we'll see.