So with the lack of content post story whats everyone doing to stay busy?

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Originally Posted by bswpayton

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I understand where you're coming from, but you have to realise that Heavensward started with even less content. This is just the norm for new FFXIV expansions. You don't get to start with a lot of content, but it gradually gets patched in. You can't just rush and no-life everything and then act surprised when you run out of things to do quickly. The game isn't built for that.

Personally, I still feel like I have plenty to do. I do my roulettes when I get back home from work to get Tomestones, and after that I have some time left to do Deltascape Normal for my PLD and WHM or Savage for my DRG. This is usually enough to keep me busy until the weekend, after which I can start leveling other classes. And if I've capped a new class, I can use that to run Susano or Lakshmi to get a new weapon and new accessories. Not to forget PotD, crafting, collecting minions or mounts... Sometimes you just have to be creative to keep yourself busy.

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Originally Posted by bswpayton

Ive mentioned this a few times, I guess I should have put it in the heading what actual sb max level content do we have. Outside of leveling crafters and gathers to 70 once you hit max level your options are limited. There are two primals at 70 with low level gear thats same ilvl as the crafted stuff, then you have normal raids once you get a drop from ur done for the week , I have been gettin all my drops in one day. Then you have savage raids which even then you get one page for the week and your done, oh and treasure maps. So tell me as far as sb content what do we have, hardly anything, Im totally fine with that but Im also sayin it could have been better and others whom arent creative with their gameplay could easily get very bored.

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That's a little limiting just in your own perimeters though isn't it? .
"actual max level content". The initial expansion isn't about endgame, it's about the MSQ and the journey to the end. The new worlds they've opened and the people and stories contained in them.
You're basically saying that after the main course , what more is there to the meal?
A few people are always gonna burn through it all in the first couple weeks and then say "so now what?"... well you wolfed down the whole meal and speedread through the book. ... that's all for now?

The patches are coming , more stuff is coming. They're making it as fast as they can

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

That's a little limiting just in your own perimeters though isn't it? .
"actual max level content". The initial expansion isn't about endgame, it's about the MSQ and the journey to the end. The new worlds they've opened and the people and stories contained in them.
You're basically saying that after the main course , what more is there to the meal?
A few people are always gonna burn through it all in the first couple weeks and then say "so now what?"... well you wolfed down the whole meal and speedread through the book. ... that's all for now?

The patches are coming , more stuff is coming. They're making it as fast as they can

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The kind of playstyle you described in your post was how I thought the vast majority of gamers played, rather than just a few, and people like myself were in a very small minority Oo Please accept my apologies, I'm not disagreeing with your viewpoint, it's just my experience in mmos I've been playing for many years has always been the opposite, everyone seems to be in such a massive rush.. lol I'm rambling now, sorry for slight OT. To keep on topic, I'm always busy, because I never outpace the content as soon as it's available, always playing catch up :)

Edit: prob my age as well, can't keep up with the younger generation :p I've had a sleepless night again, please excuse any mistakes or silly assumptions, I've got derp brain.

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

The patches are coming , more stuff is coming. They're making it as fast as they can

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This is part of the reality of mmo's really. They will never be such a thing as "enough content." Its impossible for them to keep up with the players who burn through things at a fast or even moderate pace. Sooner or later you'll burn through the content available and have to decide what to do with your time.

I leveled my crafters/gatherers but that didnt take very long due to the new leves.
I only login to do roulettes for alt classes.

I do not raid

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Originally Posted by Arutan

We didn't get more, HW had dungeon at 51 53 55 57 59 + MSQ dungeon and 2 exp dungeon. 2 MSQ trials, 2 EX trials, Alexander story and alexander savage. SB got exactly the same.

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Bismarck was useless and ARF had no gear on it ergo useless too, not to mention most ppl couldn't clear end-game for w/e reasons, so yes we got a bit more but what's important is that what we got is better based on feedback
the 2 primals were relevant to some extent (I know crafted gears made them obsolete but the point still stand)
MSQ dungeon has gear and a vanity item so it has worth
Aquapolis 2.0 (which is an improved version of the original by having a final boss imho)
you get materias from dungeon mobs and you can SB gear without it beign an hassle (maybe not for everyone but it's there)
The overall difficulty curve of the game is better
Personally I also think that no levelling dungeon feels an hassle compared to some HW ones and I especially like sirensong but that's my opinion.

TL : DR We got slightly more and better version of the content we got with HW

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Originally Posted by micropanther7

The kind of playstyle you described in your post was how I thought the vast majority of gamers played, rather than just a few, and people like myself were in a very small minority Oo Please accept my apologies, I'm not disagreeing with your viewpoint, it's just my experience in mmos I've been playing for many years has always been the opposite, everyone seems to be in such a massive rush.. lol I'm rambling now, sorry for slight OT. To keep on topic, I'm always busy, because I never outpace the content as soon as it's available, always playing catch up :)

Edit: prob my age as well, can't keep up with the younger generation :p I've had a sleepless night again, please excuse any mistakes or silly assumptions, I've got derp brain.

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Oh, please don't apologize even if you are disagreeing. I cannot possibly expect everyone to see the world as I do.That's just vain =] I used to play the same way, burn through things in 7 hour play sessions a day all week. Gobble up the content and then stand there and go.. "now what?". That got old fast though, and I ended up needing to set goals so I wouldn't burn out while my friends played catchup. But then as the games blurred past I started enjoying the story, the deeper content, actually reading the NPC stuff and well.. now I'm a completionist. Gotta do it all!
.. these kids got time to crackout every night.. I gotta get my tomes and get to sleep now.

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

Oh, please don't apologize even if you are disagreeing. I cannot possibly expect everyone to see the world as I do.That's just vain =] I used to play the same way, burn through things in 7 hour play sessions a day all week. Gobble up the content and then stand there and go.. "now what?". That got old fast though, and I ended up needing to set goals so I wouldn't burn out while my friends played catchup. But then as the games blurred past I started enjoying the story, the deeper content, actually reading the NPC stuff and well.. now I'm a completionist. Gotta do it all!
.. these kids got time to crackout every night.. I gotta get my tomes and get to sleep now.

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I'm glad you're finding a more richer experience, being a completionist never ends :p Yes it' easy to get burnt out, very quickly, learnt the hard way there when I first started playing MMOs D:

I have been playing since beta days, but still can find things to do. I just got all my combat class to 60 and above, I am also trying to get all the pvp mounts/titles, and one day I will of farmed all the ponies and birds, and get Fenrir from the Gold Saucer. There is a ton of things to do (even if you are not a raider) at end game. I have also taken many breaks from the game to keep it fresh.

After getting my tanks to 70 and a dps for when we have too many tanks, I got my primary crafter and two gatherers too and essentially decided that other than expert and deltascape 4, I'll be levelling my alt up and getting her to 70. She's been stuck in ARR for 3 years and I will focus her to be the caster/healer while my Roe is going to be my damage dealer/tank.

Levelling DRG slowly on the Roe as my wife told me I'd like how the story pans out.