Please add the Savage exclusive phase of O4S to O4N

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Originally Posted by blackbluesky

That's why I'm here asking them to change it. Thank you for understanding.

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You can change it yourself. Join the raid.

As someone who has experience running Gordias, Midas (lol, barely even touched A7S or A8S) and completed Creator before 20% Echo / Expansion hit. NO!

If you want to experience Neo ExDeath, Take the time to get good at your favorite classes, find a group willing to take you in all of savage or make your own and play the content it was intended to instead of demanding to be spoonfed content just because you're not willing to put the time or effort into it.

You want to see the fight? Have you and 7 of your friends go to youtube and watch it together. That is your option if you need to see it right now. Raiders work pretty hard to know classes well enough to fight the top tiers of content. They deserve this, even its a timed exclusive. (Because Echo+patches means everyone can do it before the end of Stormblood even.) To say you CANT see the fight is just you being a petulant child.

I also prefer they keep "it" in Savage exclusively. The good thing about Coil was that you wanted to clear it in order to see the story unfold. It motivated people to run it and give it their all.

With the way Alexander was set up, that motivation was gone, since there wasn't anything new to see in Savage (apart from ruthless mechanics). So, if they added something to V4 Savage that Normal doesn't have, it would motivate more people to go clear it themselves.

I would, if i could get our group back together for it. (^_^ )

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Originally Posted by Aldora

I also prefer they keep "it" in Savage exclusively. The good thing about Coil was that you wanted to clear it in order to see the story unfold. It motivated people to run it and give it their all.

With the way Alexander was set up, that motivation was gone, since there wasn't anything new to see in Savage (apart from ruthless mechanics). So, if they added something to V4 Savage that Normal doesn't have, it would motivate more people to go clear it themselves.

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Except the whole reason we have normal mode now is because story/gear/whatever wasn't enough motivation to get people to do coil.

no pls dont do this

I hope they do more savage exclusive fights. I hope it eventually feels like a totally different fight for all bosses in future raid content.

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

Except the whole reason we have normal mode now is because story/gear/whatever wasn't enough motivation to get people to do coil.

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Meaning that having the "exclusive bit" be directly involved with the encounter (extra flashy stuff and attacks) rather than the story is a very fair compromise.

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Originally Posted by Lambdafish

Meaning that having the "exclusive bit" be directly involved with the encounter (extra flashy stuff and attacks) rather than the story is a very fair compromise.

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No, it doesn't mean that at all.

They skimped on the story this time and went heavy on referential fights instead. The stuff with Cid talking to a cartoon chocobo isn't the interesting part that people want to see.

So you don't have time to try a raid for two hours once or twice a week? But you have the time to complain on the OF?
Got it.