DPS classes numbers and ranking posted on reddit

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Originally Posted by vikteren

And yet the issues with SMN were not the numbers but how clunky the class feels.

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And yet the main complaints were people complaining about it's lack of dps. Funny that now it's ''it feels so clunky'' when between here and gamefaqs all I saw was ''lol smn trash now''. And ''muh damage loss''.

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Originally Posted by RLofOBFL

Man....they need to rebalance pretty badly. SMN & RDM should not be that high up. And MCH...poor MCH.

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Why not? people seem to forget that unlike many other classes, SMN never has to actually stop damaging a target from beginning to end regardless of mechanics.

Seems like BLM is in a pretty bad spot, has no utility and is dealing pretty much the same damage as summoner which has more utility and mobility.

^last i heard from reddit, blm is right below sam spot so i say they are pretty good

So how exactly are a bunch of random numbers on Twitter proving or disproving anything?

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Originally Posted by Imoye

So how exactly are a bunch of random numbers on Twitter proving or disproving anything?

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If you want you can wait till FF logs start posting numbers as well, but if they come same as posted here, then its pretty much set how things are gonna turn out.

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Originally Posted by Nezia

Seems like BLM is in a pretty bad spot, has no utility and is dealing pretty much the same damage as summoner which has more utility and mobility.

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I don't see how that is so? If I am looking to join a static as my BLM, people that would want me to change jobs because I am a BLM are not worth my time to begin with. It means they don't respect my personal choices to begin with, so they are not worth he air I breath because all jobs are good at clearing content. You don't need utility in order to do it.

I think the best use of these single target dummy numbers is for determining who gets single target dps buffs like Balance card.

Personal dps matters less than total party dps. Once people start getting parses for different comps we'll see how the party meta shakes out and how boss mechanics affects things.

** Stone, Sky, Sea calculator shows that the difference between BRD (3100.87 dps) and MCH (3089.63 dps) is 11.24 on single target.

BRD is gonna be better at AoE than MCH because they can DoT multiple targets. Same can be said about BLM and SMN. SMN can catch up to BLM dps if there were multiple targets.

Top dps for single target is SAM followed by BLM.



** Stone, Sky, Sea calculator will show minimum dps required to beat content.

2min 30 sec parse not tell anything about summoner sustained dps. I tried that sss today and you can use 4 aetherflows, 2 bahamuts and cheese all your mana for ruin 3 spam. Give us double longer encounter and blm do easily +200 more than summoner.

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Originally Posted by Sunako

2min 30 sec parse not tell anything about summoner sustained dps. I tried that sss today and you can use 4 aetherflows, 2 bahamuts and cheese all your mana for ruin 3 spam. Give us double longer encounter and blm do easily +200 more than summoner.

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Problem is that SMN is a highly mobile class, actually the nerf to ruin 3 made us even more mobile as the dps loss from using ruin 2 vs ruin 3 is less during movement. SMNER movement is their strengh this patch even more so than before - the clunkiness people are complaining about is muscle memory and them screwing up theri atherflow, they'll eventually develope new memories.