Are you guys finally going to DPS and help your party?

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Originally Posted by Belhi

Personally I think healing gameplay is underdeveloped in FF14 and the healing potency of spells is too high. That is the reason healers get so much down time. They have too many fire and forget spells and to few mechanics which require constant maintenance.

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No the issue is gear. We are over geared for new dungeons the moment they are released. Try playing the last two dungeons with minimum ilvl players. If the tank anf healer are near 230 it makes for bad time. The last dungeons are great for the item level they were created for and the damage is high. The issue is most players are sitting at 260-270 so the dungeon is a lot easier. They need to cut back on the power creep of our gear and this would solve a problems. It would keep things more relevant and challenging.

They could introduce i level sync with max level dungeons/raids but then that would aggrevate 90% of the player population who do the carrot on the stick grind to be able to be above that strength during the runs. They talk about 3 difficulty modes in certain instances so maybe the hardest mode of all raids/dungeons could be a barrier on i level as well.

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Originally Posted by Belhi

I would be happy if they chose to do that but the way they are talking about it that isn't what we are getting, with WHM at least. Ironically new healing spells is the last thing WHMs need now. How am I supposed to get excited about a new flashy heal if I have more heals than I need with the list I already have? Combined with just removing Cleric stance and its pushing WHM in the complete opposite direction to the one you are talking about.

They need their design philosophy to match their game design and currently it doesn't. No wonder they are having problems balancing healers if they haven't noticed that issue yet. It is extremely frustrating, especially after all their talk on putting extra effort into balancing tanks and healers. At least PLD seems to be heading in the right direction.

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While I still think that the current CS adds extremely minimal value to gameplay in and of itself (aside from forcing healers to learn about timing and priority), I completely agree that WHM design philosophy seems to run counter to what is actually fun and engaging for healers in this game.

I'm really hoping that there is something about 4.0+ WHM gameplay that we don't know yet, because I think players are right to be concerned that WHM could continue in the vein of being the strongest and most simplistic HP battery in a game that increasingly values utility and direct damage contribution.

I spent 10 years playing WoW and during my time(s) as a Healer (which, in most games back then, were designed to hit like wet noodles by default), aggression was still required to succeed regardless of whether it was PvE or PvP (especially PvP), yet over here in FFXIV, I see so many people wallowing in this mysterious stigma that "Healer" translates to "Healing-Only required" despite it being more embracing of damage-capable healers compared to many past games that dumbed healer damage so low that you'd need dual-spec to effectively level. You can't imagine how good I felt when, having played Shadow Priest for the majority of my time elsewhere, something like "Cleric Stance" found its way onto my hotbar. I love having a diverse toolkit that can multitask (without the need to swap to a whole different class/spec/character), so you can bet your chocobo I immediately went full-aggressive healer mode and loved everything about it.

With that in mind, you can guess how I feel about the 'lazy' healers who seem to think shredding their toolkit in half because the role "Healer" gives off a certain impression is somehow acceptable. No, it's not. What is being asked for applies to EVERY role, even tanks. What surprises me the most about this whole debacle is that DPS'ing as a Healer over here is so damn simple to perform. Boggles my mind why so many shun simplistic ways of contributing to the team effort (which everyone, regardless of role, should be doing) because "Oh, sorry, last I checked my role was to just heal people". If you enjoy playing like you randomly lost half of your HUD/toolbar, that's fine - just don't expect people to like or accept this, especially for end-game where it is commonly expected that people should be awake and remotely aware of their own class-capabilities and putting them to some form of use.

For me its depend on the party itself, say i go heal only and they dont mind about it? Sure why not, even better if they are a friendly (chatty) bunch. I dont know how it go on west server but, in east server most people dont mind with healer that go "heal only" mode.

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Originally Posted by gumas

For me its depend on the party itself, say i go heal only and they dont mind about it? Sure why not, even better if they are a friendly (chatty) bunch. I dont know how it go on west server but, in east server most people dont mind with healer that go "heal only" mode.

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Or, like me, they don't want to risk turning a subpar run into a downright painful one by daring to suggest that a healer do something other than wait to heal.

I'd rather be quietly resigned to the presence of the healing-only healer than spark a tirade of self-righteous excuses as to why they're entitled to play poorly.

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Originally Posted by Cynfael

Or, like me, they don't want to risk turning a subpar run into a downright painful one by daring to suggest that a healer do something other than wait to heal.

I'd rather be quietly resigned to the presence of the healing-only healer than spark a tirade of self-righteous excuses as to why they're entitled to play poorly.

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Really could have stopped at the quietly resign part instead of just going off generalizing..

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Originally Posted by Seoulstar

Really could have stopped at the quietly resign part instead of just going off generalizing..

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Well, he's not wrong

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Originally Posted by Seoulstar

Really could have stopped at the quietly resign part instead of just going off generalizing..

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>Tries to tell someone that they're generalizing about non-DPS healers being self-righteous by being self-righteous about not DPSing.

K.

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Originally Posted by Seoulstar

Really could have stopped at the quietly resign part instead of just going off generalizing..

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Are you suggesting that there is an excuse for being a deliberately idle healer that is not a self-righteous one?