Still to this day... (the dramatic game-play on BRD last expansion)

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Originally Posted by ErryK

I hope they keep the cast bar. Makes you think about how you're going to use what skill, when and where.

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How exactly does it make you think about what skill to use? There is no situation where I have to think about using my skill. If my DoTs where to fall off, use Iron Jaws, if I have Bloodletter pop it, if Empyreal Arrow is up pop it, if Sidewinder is up make sure DoTs are up and pop it. BRD doesn't have any branching combos, it doesn't have any position based skills either. It's very straightforward and easy to learn but hard to master, and throwing a cast bar on the class just for two skills doesn't translate into direct class growth, again you don't need WM for Sidewinder or Wardens, nor to my knowledge does PvP skills benefit from WM either, in all the matches I've played I've seen even less BRDs use WM then I do DF or PF.

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Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox

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It doesn't. I believe what he meant to get at is that it forces you to plan out all your GCD's based around limited movement like BLM. They say that BLM benefits the most from learning a fight, because you can better minimize movement to maximize DPS. Bard has to play a similar way with WM. Mistakes in positioning are far more punishing.

Being a mage main, WM didn't affect me too much, but at the same time it felt too much like a caster that I asked myself "why be a BRD when I can just switch to a BLM or AST?"

While I have gotten used to WM, that doesn't mean I like it. It's still pretty clunky (compared to Gauss Barrell) and it made the BRD playstyle kinda boring. Doing Lv.50 dungeons reminds just how fast-pace BRD was; I was constantly pressing buttons, keeping track of cooldowns and timers.

Kinda ironic how the most mobile job in 2.0 became one of the least mobile job in 3.0.

I think,at level 60,when I play BLM I have more mobility than some Bard though ....

I still do not like WM.

My hand is twitchy on my mouse. I don't know whether it's age-related or just too much computer time. In any case, a slight twitch is enough to cancel casts under WM. A couple of these and all benefits are lost. I prefer the mobility, and I can maintain dps without WM for the content I want to run (no savage content). I've been told that I (non-WM) regularly outperform other bards who are using WM. However, I know that the majority of players don't run savage or ex primals on a regular basis. I'm sure the less common and more practiced, "savage bards" are significantly above my numbers, since I come up a bit short on SSS for the last 2 savage alex dummies without WM.

I like the idea of skill potency being reduced for abbreviated casting versus cancelling the cast altogether. It would reduce the cost of the occasional twitch.

Honestly, the fact that a Bard could do pirouettes and still max out their possible dps needed to be stopped, and it didn't help that a lot of groups would directly blame Bards whenever they couldn't make a dps race (Depending on the number of them in your group, it's a good chance they were right). With WM, I've noticed that this is no longer the case since Bard's can pump out damage like the best of them now, and there's much more room to improve your skill with the class than there was before. It really didn't hurt our identity as a "support damage dealer" either, so the only thing it did was kill all of the players who wanted to play the class because it was easy. I mean honestly, it's kind of a problem when you can play the game with your eyes closed.

I gave up on bard the moment I saw what Wanders Mute did to the job. I used bard as a form of release when I got done healing a stressful raid. The ability to move around and DPS was a joy, they took an extremely fun job and utterly ruined it with the changes. Until they reverse Wanders Mute, the job is dead to me.

I didn't even want to touch BRD after the changes. Only leveling it know because I have nothing else to do and am close to every combat class to 60 again. But I still prefer the older style gameplay for it. It's jarring and baffling they would change it so dramatically, especially given it's 1-50 abilities don't mesh well with cast times. Also leveling MCH at the same time, and you can tell the cast times were only designed with one of them in mind. It just feels like they tacked it on because they wanted it to be easier to balance with MCH.

Hated it at first. Now I'm used to it, actually kinda like it.

Bard is my least favourite caster, but I'm fine with WM now. I just hope they'll unite Venomous and Windbyte into a single dot and remove Iron Jaws, there's no excuse to have two actions which do exactly the same thing and roughly the same damage. Just pointless skill bloating for artificial gameplay 'difficulty'. And should I even start about 3 damage buffs which do exactly the same thing too? Can we have some original skills instead.