Lodestone census march 2017

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Originally Posted by ToasterMan

Oh great, It's that thread were raiders shame the NA/EU players because they're doing other things.

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Originally Posted by Enyalios

Really it boils down to the special snowflake mentality. EU/NA have a bizarre mindset of "it's my sub I play how I want" and don't take criticism. People white-knighting those unwilling to learn are equally as bad.

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Perhaps its the fact that neither side is working well with each other, compared to the jp, due to how they were taught to use the duty finder in game. It's a deeply ingrained problem because it's a lesson taught real early simply for the sake of clearing. No one is going to feasibly demand a player read guides of satasha and titan normal before they do them, but that is the regular demand for content at endgame. players simply are not taught the slightest part of what life is like at lvl60 or raiding until the worst point, the climax of ARR.

With an overreliance on dps to detriment of using other abilities, ffxiv is in this wierd place where it is trying to be simple, yet complex, and has problems at both.

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Originally Posted by Kallera

Perhaps its the fact that neither side is working well with each other, compared to the jp, due to how they were taught to use the duty finder in game.

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Or people just don't care as much as they thought they did. Between crafting, playing other games, roleplaying, real life obligations, I really don't put that much time towards Savage. I really don't care if I finish it or not.

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Originally Posted by ToasterMan

Or people just don't care as much as they thought they did. Between crafting, playing other games, roleplaying, real life obligations, I really don't put that much time towards Savage. I really don't care if I finish it or not.

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That's true. I ran myself ragged trying to finish coil before heavensward, thinking "no one will run it, and I'll never get it done! ; ; " , now, Yoshi P could stick a mount, a furniture, and three dancing Au Ra at the end of a12s, and I couldn't care less. xD

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Originally Posted by bswpayton

Judging from what I've seen from what the jp servers post compared to us is the have more of a community approach. Where as people use their raid clears here as a symbol of elitism. And I'm pretty sure everyone of there party finders don't have no bonus on them

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I came from JP center, now I m in EU center
I dont do raid much back in JP center, but I have to agree back in JP center the PF is slightly more newbie friendly, alot of practice groups and they are usually very patience
I try making practice in EU, but it usually took 30min+ to fill all role, and it usually disband after 2-3 wipe despite I clearly say it is practice group
I could not represent the whole EU/JP data center, but I would not disagree my experience in EU data center is abit discouraging in doing more raid

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

You know, maybe it's time people disperse from Balmung. The number is way too unreasonably high.

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Agreed. SE should do what they did on ffxi. Offer free transfers off the server.

I always dislike the "Japanese players are just better people" kinda thing. Its kinda funny since there are rumors that exactly those Japanese players do have their websites to name shame players and on top of that its said that they want to kick people after the newest patch if they are wearing a certain weapon. I dont say that all Japanese players are like that and there is probably a difference in culture but I find it kinda sad that its often written like NA/EU is just bad. Maybe we have more people that just simply dont care about raids?

But I agree: Balmung is really big O_o.

I would love to know if jp players post up in idelshire to show off their mounts and raid gear like NA players. That would be a perfect tell all to see the differences in the two communities

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Originally Posted by bswpayton

I would love to know if jp players post up in idelshire to show off their mounts and raid gear like NA players. That would be a perfect tell all to see the differences in the two communities

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Do you think it's normal for people to be embarrassed and try to hide their accomplishments instead? It's just pixels sticking out, you can go to another town hub to chill if you think it's obnoxious. I'm casual to the max now but I don't get bothered by people showing off the stuff they've worked for or are proud of, whether it's mounts or raid weapons or exclusive glamour.

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Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo

Do you think it's normal for people to be embarrassed and try to hide their accomplishments instead? It's just pixels sticking out, you can go to another town hub to chill if you think it's obnoxious. I'm casual to the max now but I don't get bothered by people showing off the stuff they've worked for or are proud of, whether it's mounts or raid weapons or exclusive glamour.

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It doesnt bother me in the slightest why should anyone be embarrassed about it I love mounts etc, I was just saying I was curious as to whether or not they did the same exact thing

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Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo

Do you think it's normal for people to be embarrassed and try to hide their accomplishments instead?

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Neither - the normal thing would be to pat yourself on the shoulder, feel proud, maybe tell your closer friends and relatives about it to share the joy and leave it at that.
Showing off in Idyllshire seems more like making a giant copy of your college degree and posting it in the middle of the most populated mall you can find for everyone to see. I can see why it bewilders people. It's weird. But I treat it like Jehova's witnesses: Smile and politely close the door/walk past.