[DEV Question] Why is this allowed?

I queue for Dusk Vigil. I'm leveling my DRG. I saved a week or two of Poetics to get the best gear I could get knowing I would likely use it right up to lvl 55 or so. I see a MCH in the party. Lvl 90 relic. A very unhealthy amount of pink aetherial gear from Aurum Vale or wherever you get lvl 49 stuff from. We attempt to kill the first three mobs. I leave without saying anything and take the penalty. Just no.

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

It should be a weighed system for figuring out the true average. If SE says you need 230 to enter something you NEED 230+ weapon. The people that decide the weighs are the same people that give a min entry to begin with.

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Largely that's the duty finder doing that. So again you're asking for an automated system different than the automated system we currently have.

You also used the terms "weighted system" and "true average" in the same sentence. The system right now finds the true average as determined by math. Seriously, you can do the math yourself, you'll get the same number the game does. You're asking for different slots to be weighted differently, so you're no longer asking for a true average, you're asking for a weighted average.

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Originally Posted by Callinon

Largely that's the duty finder doing that. So again you're asking for an automated system different than the automated system we currently have.

You also used the terms "weighted system" and "true average" in the same sentence. The system right now finds the true average as determined by math. Seriously, you can do the math yourself, you'll get the same number the game does. You're asking for different slots to be weighted differently, so you're no longer asking for a true average, you're asking for a weighted average.

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No you do not. The gear is weighed differently stat wise, your true average should reflect this. I do not appreciate the semantics, as it should be clear what I mean, and I hope it does now.

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Originally Posted by OpheliaHeartilly

I queue for Dusk Vigil. I'm leveling my DRG. I saved a week or two of Poetics to get the best gear I could get knowing I would likely use it right up to lvl 55 or so. I see a MCH in the party. Lvl 90 relic. A very unhealthy amount of pink aetherial gear from Aurum Vale or wherever you get lvl 49 stuff from. We attempt to kill the first three mobs. I leave without saying anything and take the penalty. Just no.

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That's actually fine. Like you said, i130 lasts into The Aery- the stuff you get from there is better, but if need be, you could easily use it into The Vault or Gubal. To put it into perspective, my Dreadwyrm healing coat (not replica) is 3 vit higher and 6 mind lower than the NQ healing coat you can buy in Idyllshire. Leveling dungeons, like Dusk Vigil, are far more lenient. It just really comes down to if people use their skills correctly.

This is the system the devs have designed and decided was a good setting for Duty Finder. I don't see any reason we should change it and ask for unreasonable additional restrictions.

yeah on some of my A1S farms for anima lights I would run into trolls doing the weapon thing XD the weapon should be made to be the minimum ilvl aside from the overall Ilvl. Honestly idk how to fix it, but it needs to be addressed, specially in a game were the weapons "weight" is so considerable to a characters overall potency.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

This is the system the devs have designed and decided was a good setting for Duty Finder. I don't see any reason we should change it and ask for unreasonable additional restrictions.

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The issue comes into play with how stats weigh into your overall strength. And sadly WD is the highest weighed stat in the game in regards to how it affects you characters potency, it is a considerable detriment to your own damage (and by consequence the party's damage) when you enter something like a lvl 60 raid with a weapon that is ilvl 130. I used my anima all the way to 60 to be honest, but I sure as hell upgraded before i did things like fractal and Neverreap, and even then the weapon weakness was starting to show. (ran alot of the dungons just once and with friends so we were all kinda on the same boat unless someone got lucky with a drop beforehand.)

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Originally Posted by Gumbercules

specially in a game were the weapons "weight" is so considerable to a characters overall potency.

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Yeah, this actually irked me the most. Putting on an i110 weapon, I had nearly half the heals I should have. Means that person had [approximately] half the DPS they should have. Made me cringe so hard.

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

Yeah, this actually irked me the most. Putting on an i110 weapon, I had nearly half the heals I should have. Means that person had [approximately] half the DPS they should have. Made me cringe so hard.

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yeah, pretty much. They become at most a "twink" of the weapons intended lvl from the other stats but still nothing more than a "beefier lvl 50 with a 110 weapon, doing lvl 60 content". Admittedly the game does little to push this point across though, and only ppl that have been active with some manner of end-game will even know the weapons weight relevance. SE really does need to fix the weapons ilvl value in regards to determining "entry" into content.

Yikes, people are actually defending missing around 30 weapon damage and 80-90 main stat compared to a i230 dps weapon. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.