For the Love of the TWELVE Can We Get a Proper Elemental Wheel?

Wind to suffocate the fire. There, problem solved.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

Wind to suffocate the fire. There, problem solved.

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I think everyone is assuming they are blowing ON the fire. Let's pretend that the air is being sucked away from the fire... thus extiguising it.

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Originally Posted by Arcell

You clearly didn't see any of my posts on this. Normal wind forces in our world spread fire, sure. Magical Eorzean wind that can inflict bodily harm and/or kill living creatures is of a completely different magnitude which I'm certain could extinguish a fire.

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but why dont make it more of that "feeling natural right" ? everybody would tell you that water extinguishes fire.. point and thats it.

the elemental wheel from the old dev team is crap... like many things from the old dev team are crap. they wanted to invent things which really dont fit the final fantasy universe in every case..


the "new" classes, the elemental wheel... just all. and why that? it just doesnt feel natural..

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Originally Posted by Answa

Only as big a hole as there was for Blizzard V, etc. in patches on FFXI--wait for cap increase.

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Oh yea and when is that ? besides we don't even know a cap increase would solve the issue, water could be reserved for another class for all we know.

[QUOTE=Tonkra;452635]but why dont make it more of that "feeling natural right" ? everybody would tell you that water extinguishes fire.. point and thats it.

A bucket of water, my dear, will not be very effective against an inferno. A quick moving air which sucks out oxygen from around the blaze will nearly instantly cause a very very shor life for the flames. And what was it when water gets overly heated by fire...?...oh yes, it turns to steam.

I honestly just think that the elemental wheel should be more intuitive or traditional. I m often times forced to look at the internet just make sure im using the right elements in ffxiv even though ive seen it a couple of times.

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Originally Posted by whoopeeragon

A bucket of water, my dear, will not be very effective against an inferno. A quick moving air which sucks out oxygen from around the blaze will nearly instantly cause a very very shor life for the flames. And what was it when water gets overly heated by fire...?...oh yes, it turns to steam.

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firstly im not your "dear"... secondly... wind GIVES oxygen to the fire and spreads it.
your example is just stupid, sure one small bucket wont be effective against a huge inferno..

to blow your candle out only works, because candles are VERY small flames. to blow it out works only because the breath wind is SO big in comparison to the fire. you have to keep the ratio in mind.


Fire men do extinguish house fire with water from the fire engine.
yes water steams slowly when you heaten it... but it doesnt disappear within a second...
therefore you would need much less water and much more fire within the ratio.
that works if you drip water drops into a fire... the water drops will disappear.

fire is the opposite of water and the other way around. but throwing a burning torch into a bucket of water wont make the water disappear.. but the water will cause the torch to be extinguished.
sure a bucket of water wont kill a house fire, because the quantity is in no relation.

What was this about again? Waffles on fire?... Did someone burn my waffles?!?!!

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I can't believe people are fighting over such a trivial things, it has just proven how amazing dev's works are, because apparently there is nothing much to complain.. except the bucket of waters for 7 pages.

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Originally Posted by Richard_BG

when was the last time you shot the candles out on your birthday with a watergun as opposed to just blowing them out?\

mind. BLOWN.

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Someone has probably done that during the summer birthdays. :p