Pvp Behavior Is Embarrasing

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Originally Posted by Petite

In my opinion, newbies deserve whatever is thrown at them when they queue into ranked content without knowing a single thing about how to PvP or the mode. You don't yet understand how frustrating and insulting it is to get a free loss because of dead weight players.
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Players still have a responsibility to behave in a acceptable way. Call people pit when they are playing badly can be fine especially if your willing to explain to them how they can be better, verbally abusing people is not acceptable and if you can't play without doing that you shouldn't play.

If you don't have a clue what you're doing, don't step in ranked mode where people are trying to climb. That much is common courtesy in any game you play. Would you show up to a wedding in a dirty old tracksuit while everyone is wearing tailor made 3 piece suits? Would you go into an interview for a job completely unprepared? No. Dont be silly. Put your best foot forward and people will treat you accordingly.

People trying to validate 8v8 as practice is unbelievable to me, that is no practice. You are learning nothing about PvP 8v8 and 4v4 are like night and day. Its liter 16 people running around like chickens with their heads cut off. The only way to learn 4v4 , is to play 4v4 , tough luck

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Originally Posted by Igneous

People trying to validate 8v8 as practice is unbelievable to me, that is no practice. You are learning nothing about PvP 8v8 and 4v4 are like night and day. Its liter 16 people running around like chickens with their heads cut off. The only way to learn 4v4 , is to play 4v4 , tough luck

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This is true for the most part. You can still use 8 v 8 to familiarize yourself with your job PVP abilities and the crates, limit break and heavy medal mechanics of feast but for the most part 8 v 8 is a pretty useless mode in terms of preparing you for 4 v 4. There should have been an unranked 4 v 4 mode but I guess SE is afraid of further dividing the PVP playerbase. Regardless there's too many players to hide behind to be able to effectively gauge how you would fare in the transition from 8 v 8 to 4 v 4 and the two modes play too differently with 4 v 4 putting more emphasis on individual performance.

The big problem with "Oh, go practice in Frontlines or 8v8" is that nobody ever even queues in those modes. Newbies to PVP have no choice but to step into ranked.

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Originally Posted by Avalon1101

Actually why don't you post this in general discussion with title "Be nice to everyone"

Edit: I don't think your point is feast, you just want to be treated nice although you mess up everything
So just say ppl should always be nice

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Way to escalate this from a 0 to a 9.

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Originally Posted by Urthdigger

The big problem with "Oh, go practice in Frontlines or 8v8" is that nobody ever even queues in those modes. Newbies to PVP have no choice but to step into ranked.

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People actually did used to play that crap mode (8 v 8), at least on primal, at the end of the last season when everyone was trying to sit on their points. There were time frames where the queues were as low as 5 minutes pretty much on a nightly basis after 8 pm eastern.

Can learn plenty from 8v8 as a tank can learn how to shut down dps, as a healer trying to survive against 4 dps will get you more than ready for 2 and as a dps going lone wolf and trying to figure out a burst to tear people apart, sure it's not the same but you still learn core parts to each role in a less stressful environment

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Originally Posted by Saru_Grey

do we want to keep the PvP community small forever or do we want to expand?

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Because of the way the reward system is designed, most of the community clearly wants to keep it small forever. Less players means less competition, which means higher probability of ranking. Which I'd assume is one of the reasons some people are so unnecessarily harsh and toxic in PvP. They know they can bully away potential competition and go unpunished for doing so.

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Originally Posted by MrPresident

Because of the way the reward system is designed, most of the community clearly wants to keep it small forever. Less players means less competition, which means higher probability of ranking. Which I'd assume is one of the reasons some people are so unnecessarily harsh and toxic in PvP. They know they can bully away potential competition and go unpunished for doing so.

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This is pretty funny lol. The people that are being "bullied" away are usually under performing. The ones who find themselves being constantly harassed or having vitriol thrown at them are almost always constantly under performing. So how exactly would they be competition?