Version 2.0 - apparently the real miracle patch

your pathetic and i hope you do stick around to pay because i actually want SE to steal your money for this currently shotty product (which i will be paying for because i enjoy the updates and because my character has a hot body :p)

again, what is your point in arguing any longer? its going to happen, so what is going to be your solution?

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Originally Posted by Mushy

cry more, and troll - expected from these boards. Well I will let you guys pay for the new game under the guise of more soon to be deleted content.

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Well... I think people in this thread are being a bit too jumpy and not really reading what the OP is saying.
It is a fact... the content that is building towards the new world is really just to keep people entertained (and paying) until they can finish the "miracle patch"
Yes it's cool to say "content only available to people on Eorzea now" when in fact it is really just a band-aid which will be ripped off when 2.0 comes out and tossed to the bin.

My personal opinnion to this is... Yes, it's a bit obvious that the game was crap and now they are doing everything they can to keep people happy while they fix the game to what it should have been at the launch. They can't give us a new game right now because they need to create it, but at the same time they need to do something (anything) to keep people who own the game happy (i.e. the content leading up to the new world).
They can't keep the old content because it doesn't go with the new game... so... it's a bit of a chicken and egg situation.

I have accepted it that FFXIV is a different game from what it will be in a year.
It's like movies... there are sequals to a movie and then sometimes there is a "sequal" which in fact is a story about things that happened before the 1st movie.

BUT yes, I can see that many other people don't see it like me and I can see why they would think that the current storyline was nothing. Yes.. it is just a quick fix to keep people happy while they create the "real game" but I choose to like it.

And to the people who just go "STFU this is stupid, GTFO" - Seriously, can't anyone ever say their negative opinnions in these forums without being called a troll? Get your head off the cloud and maybe read a book or two... jeez

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Originally Posted by Mamba

And to the people who just go "STFU this is stupid, GTFO" - Seriously, can't anyone ever say their negative opinnions in these forums without being called a troll? Get your head off the cloud and maybe read a book or two... jeez

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Excuse you? We explain things and it keeps flying over his head. Either that or he's a plain ol' troll. It's two options: complete idiot or baseless troll.

Really? Read a book or two? Hilarious.

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Originally Posted by Answa

Excuse you? We explain things and it keeps flying over his head. Either that or he's a plain ol' troll. It's two options: complete idiot or baseless troll.

Really? Read a book or two? Hilarious.

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this.
people tried reasoning with him and it just kept getting repeated over and over. he doesnt want to pay and it started sounding almost like his authority is being looked over or something.

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Originally Posted by Answa

Just from this one post, I'm going to assume you're nothing but a troll. Like ellohwell. This is one of the greatest insults I could ever come up with. *cracks knuckles*

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Originally Posted by Alerith

I can't tell if you're trolling or legitimately an idiot.

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Originally Posted by Answa

omg.................. do you even have the capacity for reasoning (or reading, for that matter)?

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Originally Posted by Answa

Hopefully low enough to keep you from playing. The real answer is we don't know yet.

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Originally Posted by Alerith

You have to pay double.

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Originally Posted by Dreadnought

your pathetic and i hope you do stick around to pay because i actually want SE to steal your money for this currently shotty product

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There - and when I read OPs posts, not one actually went to this level. Grow up.

Its a troll post. Stop falling for it.

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Originally Posted by Mamba

There - and when I read OPs posts, not one actually went to this level. Grow up.

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What about these?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post447035

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post447050

Then he says this:

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Originally Posted by Mushy

yes auction house costs 1000s a month from player subs to implement... stripping of skills and the title of a job EXPENSIVE STUFF. no.. the money is going to the new game and servers plain and simple

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And what the hell am I supposed to think, that he's listening? No, I arrive at the opinion that he's a troll.

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And what the hell am I supposed to think, that he's listening? No, I arrive at the opinion that he's a troll.

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Yeah, so he has his opinnion, he doesn't like to pay, he thinks the whole funding is just for the new game and not for the stuff being implemented now. WHO KNOWS WHERE THE MONEY GOES, maybe it goes to the Square Enix Christmas party... I do not care.
My point was that it's so annoying that on this forum... well tbh, any forum on internet... If you don't go with the mainstream and you dare to think differently, you are called a troll, idiot, pathetic... not being able to read... etc.

I think it's a valid discussion point he is raising and people's responses just really get to me. You reply and they don't agree, then you start calling names... huhhh?

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Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce

uhmm.... when 2.0 goes live, we will have a 1 month free period

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Like many I've been hanging on since alpha and even those who came in at the basically ignored feedback of the beta phase know full well that the things that they have time to fix in a month are minor teeny tiny tweaks at best and then it's back to paid-beta.

Isn't anyone else shocked by the fact that they're not choosing a group of alpha testers in the early stages of 2.0 developement?

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Originally Posted by Mamba

Yeah, so he has his opinnion, he doesn't like to pay, he thinks the whole funding is just for the new game and not for the stuff being implemented now. WHO KNOWS WHERE THE MONEY GOES, maybe it goes to the Square Enix Christmas party... I do not care.
My point was that it's so annoying that on this forum... well tbh, any forum on internet... If you don't go with the mainstream and you dare to think differently, you are called a troll, idiot, pathetic... not being able to read... etc.

I think it's a valid discussion point he is raising and people's responses just really get to me. You reply and they don't agree, then you start calling names... huhhh?

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You're totally missing the point.

Analogy time!

Fact: This apple is red and costs x.
OP: I like green apples, how much do they cost?
There are only red apples. They cost x.
OP: How about peaches? Those seem nice.
... Red apples. Take it or leave it.
OP: How about a fruit basket?

He's not expressing his opinions based off of the replies he gets (which is what forum debates are supposed to be like), he's completely ignoring every piece of information in them and just repeating nonsense. If that's not trolling, I don't know what is.

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Originally Posted by Seif

Isn't anyone else shocked by the fact that they're not choosing a group of alpha testers in the early stages of 2.0 developement?

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Honestly? No. They know that if they screw up again that it's over. I'm sure they'll spoil this baby (in the good sense--not rotting) and pull no stops to make it work.