Rebalancing Suggestions for 4.0

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Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

I find it funny people are using PLD, the job with the least buttons to press, as the example for trimming down buttons.

"Yeah, PLD only has to use 3 buttons to do Rage of Halone... but what if they only needed 1?????"

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It works well in Aion to keep skill bloat down, no reason it couldn't work here too.

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Originally Posted by Freyyy

yet now every class has between 10 and 15 buttons in WoW, after all the revamps they did

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exactly, because it got way out of hand
Wouldn't it be better if ffxiv tried to keep it reeled in before it has to do a gigantic revamp of every single class?

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Originally Posted by Norleas

Instead of making Gauss Barrel not add cast times, add a seperate attachment called Quickdraw Grip:

-15% damage dealt
+30% skill speed
+5% crit chance
+20% chance to trigger Split Shot and Slug Shot's additional effect.

Gauss Round morphed into Rapid Fire Round
90 potency x stacks of ammunition (450 max.)
Additional effect: Removes damage reduction caused by Quickdraw Grip (5s)

Ricochet morphed into Bullet Hell
250 potency
AoE
Additional effect: Targets hit by this take 10% more incoming damage (10s)

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I like this thematically.

Idk if this was suggested or not yet. But making the MCH turrets follow, similar to sum/sch. That would help maintain the turret buffs so they are more equal to brd.

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Originally Posted by CrystalRainbow

No changes to system needed if marcos would be reworked to .0X of a second.

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I wish I could plus 1 more then once. That would fix all my issues.

For SMN and SCH, just remove the need for all the different buttons to have your pet manually attack/cast and consolidate them into four abilities whose effect is determined by the current Carbuncle/Egi/Fairy. These names are clunky, but you get the gist, I hope:

Alpha Tactic: standard auto-attack/heal
Beta Tactic: the stun/knockback/regen/debuff heal
Gamma Tactic: the AoE attack/regen/buff
Delta Tactic: the AoE buff/Contagion/Silence/whatever Eos' 4th ability is (not a big SCH player since 3.0).

That just condensed the 12 SMN pet and 8 SCH pet abilities to a max of 4 shared among the Egis and Fairies, assuming you also have their auto-attack hotbared (which I don't know why you would, but I'm not a big SMN/SCH player, so feel free to correct me on that).

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Originally Posted by Mysteltain

For SMN and SCH, just remove the need for all the different buttons to have your pet manually attack/cast and consolidate them into four abilities whose effect is determined by the current Carbuncle/Egi/Fairy. These names are clunky, but you get the gist, I hope:

Alpha Tactic: standard auto-attack/heal
Beta Tactic: the stun/knockback/regen/debuff heal
Gamma Tactic: the AoE attack/regen/buff
Delta Tactic: the AoE buff/Contagion/Silence/whatever Eos' 4th ability is (not a big SCH player since 3.0).

That just condensed the 12 SMN pet and 8 SCH pet abilities to a max of 4 shared among the Egis and Fairies, assuming you also have their auto-attack hotbared (which I don't know why you would, but I'm not a big SMN/SCH player, so feel free to correct me on that).

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Scholars and Summoners don't suffer from these. They are compartmentalized within themselves and can be isolated onto different hotbars.

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Originally Posted by Rawrz

Scholars and Summoners don't suffer from these. They are compartmentalized within themselves and can be isolated onto different hotbars.

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True, but on controller it's been a nightmare to get everything for SCH and SMN to fit on three cross hotbars (two standard and an expanded hotbar). Admittedly, limiting myself to three per job is a personal preference, but those two jobs do have the largest amount of ability bloat if one wants to manually control their pets.

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Originally Posted by Mysteltain

True, but on controller it's been a nightmare to get everything for SCH and SMN to fit on three cross hotbars (two standard and an expanded hotbar). Admittedly, limiting myself to three per job is a personal preference, but those two jobs do have the largest amount of ability bloat if one wants to manually control their pets.

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I run my SCH with 5 hotbars + extended, but when each fairy is out I'll use only 2 + extended, until I need to switch out or resummon, then i will use my back 5th hotbar, so I may have 5 hotbars, but I only actively access 2 + extended on each fairy. :O

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Originally Posted by Sylisto

Idk if this was suggested or not yet. But making the MCH turrets follow, similar to sum/sch. That would help maintain the turret buffs so they are more equal to brd.

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The turrets actually already have an impressive range. And MCHs generally have free reign over where they're placed. Now I wouldn't be adverse to a 3rd turret that's mobile, but the big question is what would it do that the Rook/Bishop don't already do?