Here you go Yoshida, hard-straight stats.

Excellent work. The only stat that would concern me is the 0 drop rate. That should not be if you have done anything right and it sounds as if you have done it all correctly. As for the item drop rates they actually appear to be somewhat generous compared to SE's history

I am about halfway done with my 5th stack of tapers overall and I am 3/7 on ifrit drops. The 3 I got were 3 in a row starting at the 41st kill. Still without my harpoon, but our mages sure aren't without theirs. I am honestly worried that they are going to fix this crap in 1.20 when ifrit probably won't matter anymore just like they fixed the dungeon dc issue after they completely negated everything you could get in them.

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Originally Posted by Req

I am about halfway done with my 5th stack of tapers overall and I am 3/7 on ifrit drops. The 3 I got were 3 in a row starting at the 41st kill. Still without my harpoon, but our mages sure aren't without theirs. I am honestly worried that they are going to fix this crap in 1.20 when ifrit probably won't matter anymore just like they fixed the dungeon dc issue after they completely negated everything you could get in them.

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Maybe they should make it so everything after an update isn't completely worthless then hmm?

Perhaps it was an itemization rehaul side-effect

instead of an intention to make items from the past updates always worthless in the next one.

But of course it can also mean the latter option. Sure. It's possible. With advanced technology, cows, too, can fly. In theory.

woops double post

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Originally Posted by tachikoma

one thing that should have been shown in the OP's post is the total # of chests opened vs the total # of weapons collected, by saying 100 fights and # of drops its not very impacting especially from the perspective of the endgame community BUT by saying u opened:

800 chests and collected a total of 88 drops.

This helps support my theory that the chance of opening the chest with a weapon is 10%. Could someone please post the probability of getting all 7 drops in say 100 runs? or what the expected # of fights you would have to win (chests to open) to get all 7 weapons?

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It is about 1/10 chance of getting a drop. That much is pretty much proven. It is the WAY that they drop that is complete crap. You have people getting multiples of the same item over and over and over again and drops going to people that don't main the job that uses the weapon over and over and over again, and then the two scenarios combine over and over and over again. The fact that your character simply decides "lol im just going to put this weapon back in the chest because I already have one" without the ability to give it to people that actually want it is complete and utter crap.

one thing that should have been shown in the OP's post is the total # of chests opened vs the total # of weapons collected, by saying 100 fights and # of drops its not very impacting especially from the perspective of the endgame community BUT by saying u opened:

800 chests and collected a total of 88 drops. pretty close to a 10% drop rate of any weapon.

Probability:

x=10% drop rate (1/7 at the weapon you want)===>.7%{effective drop rate}
y=100 (number of runs)

1 - ( ( 1 - x ) ^ y ) = 1 - ((1-.007)^100) = 0.50463553464414735617482632768592

basically you have just over a 50% chance to get your desired weapon if you kill ifrit 100 times. I have played a lot of MMO's and this type of drop rate is not what I would consider casual or reasonable. Less then a 1% drop rate and ppl say things like:

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Originally Posted by DGMart

No no. If we can go in every 15 minutes and the drop rate is around 10-15%. That's pretty damn good. If we could only go in once per RL week. Then I can see someone complaining.

It's exactly as I said they are not the same. Once you have ifrit on farm where you are doing 5-10 ifrits a night or whatever, you will see how fast loot drops eventhough it's RNG. It's an average of 1 weapon per ifrit for my ls.

They need to fix the loot distribution ASAP. The current system is just garbage.

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Summary: less then 1% drop rate and in order to get over 50% chance at the weapon you want you need to kill him 100 times...

People who chose to make this loot system work the way it does are the same people in charge of fixing the rest of the game. This worries me.

Welcome to Final Fantasy. Some items in previous games had a 1% drop rate or lower as well. I don't see anything wrong with the drop rate, but the distribution method needs fixing.