Progression: Eos+AST vs Selene+WHM

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Originally Posted by Jukebox12

how am I a troll

30/60=.5
.5*.03=.015
.015*10minutes???=15% <- Bad math. Bad D:<

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.015% increase over the course of 10 minutes is still a .015% increase.

You buy a pair of shoes that make you run faster. They help you get one extra step every 10 feet. So thats a 10% increase. With normal shoes on you run 30 feet in 3 seconds. Wow you're fast! With the special shoes you run 33 feet in 3 seconds! WoWW! In 10 seconds with normal shoes you run 100 feet! With your special shoes how far could you run in those 10 seconds? Did you run any faster in 10 seconds then you did in 3?

You could run 110 feet in 10 seconds. No, you ran the same at a 10% increase from wearing the non-special shoes. Every second you ran 11 feet. The Special shoes increased your running speed by 1 foot a second.

Selene is your special shoes at 1.5% DPS increase per minute, not including negative and positive factors.

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Originally Posted by Rawrz

.015% increase over the course of 10 minutes is still a .015% increase.

You buy a pair of shoes that make you run faster. They help you get one extra step every 10 feet. So thats a 10% increase. With normal shoes on you run 30 feet in 3 seconds. Wow you're fast! With the special shoes you run 33 feet in 10 seconds! WoWW! In 10 seconds with normal shoes you run 100 feet! With your special shoes how far could you run in those 10 seconds? Did you run any faster in 10 seconds then you did in 3?

You could run 110 feet in 10 seconds. No, you ran the same at a 10% increase from wearing the non-special shoes. Every second you ran 11 feet. The Special shoes increased your running speed by 1 foot a second.

Selene is your special shoes at 1.5% DPS increase per minute, not including negative and positive factors.

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with his logic, wearing 10 pairs would help him run 10 times faster!

with upkeep of the buff in 10 mins u get 300 secs of 600 secs which is half
the buff is 3% so in upkeep u get 1.5% per min=60 secs
600/60=10
1.5% is ur upkeep
10 mins is the duration
1.5%*10=15%

15% is your gain

9%-30% please tell me where 15% is cuz dumb people cannot



please tell me how u got the decimal point incorrect



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Originally Posted by Jukebox12

.015 is 1.5% the duration of the raid is X.
the duration of the fight is 10 mins
1.5% or .015*X
1.5%*10=15%



please tell me how u got the decimal point incorrect

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Lets do that math ONE more time. No analogy strong enough, for you, I guess.

You do 1000 DPS on your DRK without Selene in one Minute.
With Selene you do 1.5% more. So you do 1015 DPS with Selene in one minute. (Thats not really how her buff works but we'll pretend it does. You need 3 fey winds to feel her effect.)
Over the course of 10 minutes your DRK keeps up with a 1000 DPS (Thats per second) and over the course of 10 minutes has done 600,000 Raid damage. (1000 DPS x 60 seconds x 10 minutes)
With Selene present he has kept up with 1015 DPS (Again thats per second) and over the course of 10 minutes has done 609,000 raid Damage.

600, 000 raid damage per 10 minutes or (60 seconds x 10) is 1000 damage per each second.
609, 000 raid damage per 10 minutes or (60 seconds x 10) is 1015 damage per each second.

Although you did 9,000 more damage for the encounter, you did not do 9,000 more damage in a single moment. You kept the same slope of increase the entire time.

Please read this carefully. If there isn't something you understand, just ask. It somewhat feels that you may have a language barrier preventing us from understanding each other or it might just be your overuse of "u."

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Originally Posted by Rawrz

u do 1000 DPS on your DRK without Selene in one Minute.
With Selene you do 1.5% more. So you do 1015 DPS with Selene in one minute. (Thats not really how her buff works but we'll pretend it does. You need 3 fey winds to feel her effect.)
Over the course of 10 minutes your DRK keeps up with a 1000 DPS (Thats per second) and over the course of 10 minutes has done 600,000 Raid damage. (1000 DPS x 60 seconds x 10 minutes)
With Selene present he has kept up with 1015 DPS (Again thats per second) and over the course of 10 minutes has done 609,000 raid Damage.

600, 000 raid damage per 10 minutes or (60 seconds x 10) is 1000 damage per each second.
609, 000 raid damage per 10 minutes or (60 seconds x 10) is 1015 damage per each second.



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u know u just answer my 15% right

its 7.5% increase if u said you needed 3 my math is wrong its .0083 or something like that

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Originally Posted by Jukebox12

is the buff duration 60 in this cuz I know its 30

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The buff duration is 30 seconds at 3%. You did the math earlier to show how over the course of 1 minute the buff would be worth 1.5% since the buff only has a 50% uptime out of 60 seconds.

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Originally Posted by Jukebox12

30/60=.5
.5*.03=.015

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Originally Posted by Rawrz

The buff duration is 30 seconds at 3%. You did the math earlier to show how over the course of 1 minute the buff would be worth 1.5% since the buff only has a 50% uptime out of 60 seconds.

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I derp up did not read but I did edit

I'll leave this table here, maybe it'll be helpful in trying to explain Rawrz's example.

You have to see how much total damage you've done in a particular time frame with the Fey Wind buff and without the Fey Wind buff and compare how much higher the buffed value is versus the unbuffed value. You'll see that this value never exceeds 3%.

[EDIT] Also to note that as the fight goes on, the damage increase % gets closer and closer to 1.50%