Yoshida' stance on PL and why it is less than ideal.

I think if people want to speed up the demise of their time in this game by PLing, let them. It doesn't affect you, it doesn't affect me, it doesn't really affect anyone but the player who's getting PLed.

All of the OPs points are valid to an extent. Leveling is more than half of the experience here, and missing out on that is a huge hindrance because they miss out on learning their class, learning other classes and how to interact with them, missing and opportunity to attain more friendships, and actually feeling accomplished by goals. If they just rush to 50, then the game will die that much quicker for THEM, not us.

So Yoshi's decision to include this method of PLing is bad for his wallet and not ours. If he is okay with people rushing to end game just to get sick of the content he isn't churning out, then that is ultimately his downfall. /endtopic, /endthread, just stop talking about this, seriously.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

I wonder what does it take to make you answer my question? What's so fun about PLing for two days that is better than being lvl50 right from the beginning?

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I just answered your question, and sitting at work typing this, makes me think that you might be one of my customers. Good lord.

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Originally Posted by Vahzl

I just answered your question, and sitting at work typing this, makes me think that you might be one of my customers. Good lord.

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You certainly managed to dodge the question once again. You have only said why PL is "fine". You never answered why it is better than being lvl50 right from the get-go.

I do feel sorry for your customers though.

the customer is always wrong btw.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

You certainly managed to dodge the question once again. You have only said why PL is "fine". You never answered why it is better than being lvl50 right from the get-go.

I do feel sorry for your customers though.

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Think im done with this thread, one of the rare occasions where someone on a forum pushes my buttons, but you sir, are very aggravating to talk to.

Where are my reps at? I want something said about this topic already.

I never knew what the level sync was that people were talking about, but by the way people are describing it, why didn't they just go with that? Atleast that required some type of team work.

And with the way you can gain EXP parties now, there's absolutely NO point in power leveling. Something they should have just left out. Might have been there way of being lazy to not implement a better system. Who knows, I don't.

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Think im done with this thread, one of the rare occasions where someone on a forum pushes my buttons, but you sir, are very aggravating to talk to.

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Figured as much. No answer, just personal insults.

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I never knew what the level sync was that people were talking about, but by the way people are describing it, why didn't they just go with that? Atleast that required some type of team work.

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It seems because Yoshida doesn't hold anything pre-endgame in any regard. He just wants people to hit the level cap asap, and for that end this system is pretty good. Although starting from level cap would be even more efficient.

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Figured as much. No answer, just personal insults.

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Fair enough, I will bite, what do you want me to say, as you seem to care for my opinion so much? Tell me what you want me to say, that has not already been said in the other 3 threads, and before in this one.

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Originally Posted by Travesty

Actually, grind parties do take skill, and even moreso now with the introduction of the enemy linking system. But, with this patch, in the same breath that they made grind parties require more skill, they also made that fact irrelevant with powerleveling.

And the most fun I've ever had in gaming were some of my parties in FFXI. So grinding certainly can be fun. MMO's are social games. 90% of the fun comes from the people you play with.

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If grind parties are so much fun, then why isn't everyone doing it 24/7? You think the ppl who aren't don't know what they are missing? You may love it, but obviously alot of ppl don't. People are out there soloing, powerleveling, picking their noses. Alot of ppl just can't stand it.

Some ppl find socializing through just chat. What does it matter if their friends avatar is standing next to them.

While it may take skill for the first few fights it becomes repetitive after that untill you move on to a new area where the first few fights is skill, then repetition all over again. Some ppl just don't like working on others timetables.

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Fair enough, I will bite, what do you want me to say, as you seem to care for my opinion so much? Tell me what you want me to say, that has not already been said in the other 3 threads, and before in this one.

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It was a simple question. I do not share your mindset on the issue, which is why I am asking you. I do not see anything fun in having to PL my character for 2 days to hit the level cap. I would rather start from the level cap since that way I could skip the 2 days of PL that provide me with no entertainment value whatsoever if I had to choose. You, on the other hand, seem to prefer having to PL for 2 days. Why that is, is what I'd like you to answer.

From where I stand, this solution pleases nobody and there are better alternatives for all parties concerned. If you can think of a benefit for having this system intact, please tell us.

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You may love it, but obviously alot of ppl don't.

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You can choose any hobby and I can find you people that don't like it. Should it be changed to cater to those who don't like it (while alienating those who do in the process)? I don't think so. If you don't like it, you're not forced to do it.

Unless it's an MMO, in which case people who don't enjoy it play them anyway.