Final Fantasy 14 is starting to lose appeal because...

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Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH

Not sure we're playing the same game here. I've got two jobs to sixty and I'm still finding a ton of stuff I want to do.

Between leveling alts, gearing alts, unlocking flying in all areas, finally, working on crafting, leveling gathering, farming MPG so I can get the Fenrir mount, working towards my PvP achievements and ranks, I have enough content to last me a long while.

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Right? I'm far from running out of things to do between crafting, gathering, leveling, raiding, and doing random-ass things with my friends like burning down unsynced dungeons for giggles. It doesn't really take a rocket scientist to figure out that someone that only does one type of content will run out faster than someone that wants to do all of it.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

Which is why Themepark games are badly designed in general for Western audiences. However FFXIV is a Japanese game and Japanese players most of them do not have much time to play games. So this content is perfect for them, the caps are actually good because it encourages them to get to bed early and get up for school. Which, isn't really a bad thing. However most MMOs these days are not made for content locusts like EQ/EQ2/SWG/Most old games were made for.

Sandbox games and player made content are a way developers can keep up. Since the players develop the content for other players.

SWG was amazing because there was so much busywork and crafting required other players to literally escort you across dangerous land just to get and place a harvestor. You had to hire players to escort you and it was pretty much a player made quest. So much potential in Sandbox games that are lost because developers are too busy wanting to make things and don't think players can handle it themselves, yet they gobble it all up. =P

Why am I not playing those games? Outdated, or dead. My computer can barely run them because of how old they are.

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Well, if you stop by the japanese forums you'll see that recently they have been bringing up the exact same topics up.

The game is only a chore if you make it a chore. Take a break if you need to. If you feel OBLIGATED to log in then you're making the game a job. Better to take a break than burn yourself out by forcing yourself to play. If you're bored then go play something else. It's an MMO, not a perpetual fun generator.

I find plenty of things to do every time I log in. PVP, leveling other classes, playing the markets, Gold Saucer, hunts, farming for glamours, doing stuff with my husband or friends, achievements, etc. And on Thursday/Friday I do Savage with my static.

What people are really complaining about is a lack of midcore PVE content, NOT an overall lack of content. There is stuff to do, but it's slim pickings for midcore players who aren't pushing Savage. There is a large portion of the playerbase that is not hardcore enough to do Savage but they log in more frequently than casual players, and it seems like Alex Normal and 2 dungeons aren't really enough to keep them happy.

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Originally Posted by Greedalox

And I think he's being difficult and unrealistic. Like a lot of players (Myself included), we're content locusts. We eat it all up, quickly too. Developers can't possibly keep up with fabulous content to keep us 100% occupied 100% of the time

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So, combining this and the rejection for content longevity and relevance (through gear system reworking), the players who are perfectly fine with this game's current state, they want new content fast but does not want the devs to figure out ways to make the content stick longer than a few months...because they believe that's how many other want it? And then you tell people who don't like this to basically unsub? How do you justify batch subs then? Or even subs at all? Would it not be better if they just sell patches? XIV patches are best around after all right?

You have your merry go round ride and you only want the devs to only replace the horses you sit on every few moths and that's it? You don't want the devs to add a new ride and then upkeep both? People say this is a theme park mmo. When a theme park announces they're expanding, do you expect new rides or do you expect them to just replace the horses, carts, etc and essentially have the same rides?

Whether someone is spent on the game or not completely depends on how much of the game they really like. Final Fantasy XIV has a smorgus board of different game systems crammed into it much like other MMOs out there. The whole point of this is to blanket target as many people as possible to get them to play the game. People who are getting bored of the game are the people interested in the core aspects of the title such as the main story, progression, and little else. Crafting is pretty boring for a lot of people, and without housing that is accessible to the general masses there isn't a lot of incentive to build and settle in. FC housing doesn't even count since people can lose it at a whim, and while plots are available for buying a house in game, the cost is prohibitive.

I guess there is chocobo racing and Triple triad? Are those a thing?

I will admit that I'm playing less these days. There's not as much in the way of end-game content right now (which hopefully 3.1 will help with), and while I used to spend a lot of my downtime working on crafting, the new crafting progression structure (and the lack of meaningful things to craft) has left me without much interest for what was once one of my favorite parts of the game.

I want to see more relevant content somewhere in between Alexander Normal and Alexander Savage. EX primals should be relevant content and ideally provide truly relevant rewards (they were at their best in 2.1, IMO), and I really wish we had a raid tier tuned more like the old Coils.

I am constantly shocked at how many topics are created by OPs that have the gall to say the speak for everyone, or even the majority.

While i get OP's point, i also think he is limiting himself to it.

Yes endgame is dull with only 2 expert dungeons to grind and Alexander Savage might also get repetitive since there are only 4 fights (even though most people havent even beaten it yet)
But as others already said, the game offers alot on the side.

Even if Esos wouldnt be capped, you would end up getting all your gear within a week and then what? Youre still not interested in other classes, you still dont like crafting, you still only have those 2 expert dungeons.

If you get bored by the game, then take a break. Wait for them to add more endgame stuff, which is eventually comming even without this thread.

I for one, still got plenty of stuff to do.
I play alot and usually still end up having not enough time to do everything i need to, which ends up in a big backlog of work i have to do for crafting whenever i do find the time.

My suggestions... Do pvp, level more jobs, do endgame crafting, collect things (mounts, minions, achievements, glamor, cards). Now the game is infinite, or at least has more stuff than is humanly possible to keep up with. The airship battle content coming soon may feel less routine since it seems to be somewhat random. They keep adding new activities layer by layer. PvP is different every match.

Seems like the ones who are on the constant bitch about having nothing to do is needing for some sort of random generated infinite farm content. Not sure what the op is talking about when he mentions about "Being the top in my class" but if progression is what you are talking about then please wait for the next patch if you are already done with all 4 floors of Savage and have equipped your character to the brim with all ilvl210. Or why not just take a break from this game for now and go play Diablo.