Dissipation vs Divine Seal

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

Yeah, and in that 10 seconds I could be passively healing the tank. There is no situation that requires such preparation and no content that requires that amount of vast healing. The sacrifice to overall HOT isn't worth it. It is a foolish move.

If the boss is going to die in 10 seconds, maybe. However its not worth the loss of HPS and mana you burn attempting it.

Your worse off unless the fight is about to end.

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Sure you can try to become an all out tank in 10 seconds, but that is one of dissipation's uses. Simply put if we talk about saying how dissipation doesn't have a day to day on casual content, in theorycraft or meta talk that is true. The numbers don't support it since we waste alot of resources for an ability to simply say correct the mistakes of others when we can wipe and just redo it for instance.

But when you do it in practice, this is honestly a skill that has more uses than we can describe. It isn't just the situation that makes the ability worthwhile but how we use it in any situation that makes it amazing. A more perceptive healer is needed to make it work that is all i can say from my experience using it, even in normal everyday content.

I want to help you understand, and well this is probably the best way i can put it, if you look at the big picture why it can't be compared to something like divine seal/syntary in normal content usage is that unlike WHM/ASTs we carry alot of survival utility that is amazing when they crit or when used in one hit situations. Dissipation helps us unlock all this utility at one go(aetherflow assuming you had none) with enhance healing power and gives us the option to mitigate just this one attack or recover from it. But we can't jump right away to say it is an oh shit button, instead it is like a mitigation utility refresh, something which we never really seem "need" since most of the time we assume we have it all under control.

You need to be really good at using your utility to find some use in this and well prepared ahead of the fight. If you still feel unconvinced, then all i can say is wish you the best of luck hoping that this one skill alone gets buffed.

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Originally Posted by Niryco

Sure you can try to become an all out tank in 10 seconds, but that is one of dissipation's uses. Simply put if we talk about saying how dissipation doesn't have a day to day on casual content, in theorycraft or meta talk that is true. The numbers don't support it since we waste alot of resources for an ability to simply say correct the mistakes of others when we can wipe and just redo it for instance.

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If you are that bad off in the fight, you are going to wipe anyways in current content. Sorry.

It is useless. I can theorycraft all day about what it "could" do. However what it "does" is make you worse off for a good 20-25 seconds.

It literally takes away an Aetherflow's worth of Mana from you and decreases your healing over time.

Dissipation isn't SCH's Synastry/Divine Seal equivalent. They have Rouse and Fey Illumination (20% for 20s like Synastry).

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Originally Posted by Cupcakesu

Dissipation isn't SCH's Synastry/Divine Seal equivalent. They have Rouse and Fey Illumination (20% for 20s like Synastry).

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Except that Illumination helps both healers.

It is also unusable with Selene up.

It also has 30 sec longer CD than Synastry and 60 sec (double) longer CD than Divine Seal.

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Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall

Except that Illumination helps both healers.

It is also unusable with Selene up.

It also has 30 sec longer CD than Synastry and 60 sec (double) longer CD than Divine Seal.

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Why is it a bad thing that Illumination helps both Healers? That's something that works in FAVOR of SCH. It's a bonus, not a negative, and doesn't really work towards an argument that SCH is somehow lacking in this department. On top of that, Rouse is 40% additional healing on your fairy. And yes, while Dissipation is not an equivalent, it's still there and an option on top of Illumination and Rouse.

So... what's the problem here, again?

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Originally Posted by Cupcakesu

Why is it a bad thing that Illumination helps both Healers? That's something that works in FAVOR of SCH. It's a bonus, not a negative, and doesn't really work towards an argument that SCH is somehow lacking in this department. On top of that, Rouse is 40% additional healing on your fairy. And yes, while Dissipation is not an equivalent, it's still there and an option on top of Illumination and Rouse.

So... what's the problem here, again?

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40% aditional healing on your fairy will just make it how its "suppossed" to be , in HW embrace got ninja nerfed into oblivion and the 300 pot is misleading.

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Originally Posted by SenzorialBoundries

40% aditional healing on your fairy will just make it how its "suppossed" to be , in HW embrace got ninja nerfed into oblivion and the 300 pot is misleading.

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And this matters... how? You still have an additional source of free healing. It's essentially a perma-Regen and/or perma-Synastry. It's not like the game is making you pick between Rouse and Illumination. You have both. Go nuts.

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Originally Posted by Cupcakesu

And this matters... how? You still have an additional source of free healing. It's essentially a perma-Regen and/or perma-Synastry. It's not like the game is making you pick between Rouse and Illumination. You have both. Go nuts.

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implying any serious sch uses Eos on 8man content.

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Originally Posted by SenzorialBoundries

implying any serious sch uses Eos on 8man content.

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That's not my problem. You have the choice. If you want the Haste buff and AoE-cleanse you need to give up Illumination. Can't have everything at once, now, can you?
The option is always there. Feel free to take it. If you're not taking Eos it's because you didn't need the extra healing anyway.

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Originally Posted by Cupcakesu

That's not my problem. You have the choice. If you want the Haste buff and AoE-cleanse you need to give up Illumination. Can't have everything at once, now, can you?

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let me tell you something now you have heals on par with whm , base shields stronger than a sch and the ability to chose what you want to do AND cards on top of that , mindblowing right?