Crafting is dead

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Originally Posted by Talia_Hailwind

Woah woah woah,

They freaking Re-skinned items for new glamor AGAIN!?!?!

WHEN WILL THIS GLAMOR LAZINESS END?!?!?

Seriously! WTF do our subscriptions go towards now-a-days!?!?

RIOT! (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

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I think the design team has empty idea about new clothes. In much much time all mages still with a monotone curtains dress :/

The difference is even casual non-crafters could get and sell sealant from doing extremely simple beastman dailiies. Many, many, many, many did. It's why the system worked at all. Unless red scrips are equally easy to get, you will not be seeing anyone but the top-end crafters getting them. And a top-end crafter will not be selling the mats you can buy with them, at least not for anything less than 10mil-50mil a piece. I know I wouldn't sell such a precious commodity for less.

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Originally Posted by giantslayer

I look at this and have to wonder is it really that much worse? Mats gated behind red scrips instead of coils? Red scrips instead of Ehcatl sealants? At least you don't have to grind pointless Ixali crap for months to be able to get red scrips like you did for Ehcatl sealants.

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The weekly cap is 450, you need for example 300 to get enough mats to *attempt* to craft it in HQ (NQ would be worthless, as it's no good for glam, being a re-skin).

Looks like they will only be avaliable to players with lvl 58+ main class and lvl 56+ crafts at least.

If the above is correct, then end-game crafting in 3.0 will be an utter waste of time/gil.

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Originally Posted by Espritduo

The difference is even casual non-crafters could get and sell sealant from doing extremely simple beastman dailiies.

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Sealants were also only used for the crafer/gather gears, these new gated mats will be used for all.

Inb4 selling hq moonbeam thread, 5 mil a piece.

If they're dumb enough to sell it that cheap, you'd be a fool not to buy it. Like I said, I expect, if anyone actually decides to sell these, it will be for bare minimum 10mil a piece, most likely rising much higher, and that's just for the raw mats themselves, let alone an actual HQ crafted mat like moonbeam thread. The actual gear I'd bet would sit at 50-100mil a piece if anyone actually tried to sell that.

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Originally Posted by Snugglebutt

Crafting is in no way, shape or form dead. I have been making a small fortune of late from crafters buying my HW content materials which I gathered and it is the same for everyone else I know in game of which I then pump that same money back in to level my own crafters quickly via the markets.

There may be an issue with red scripts but it is having little to no effect on the economy of my world. If anything the economy is thriving due to all the new recipes and materials despite any complaints you have about blue or red scripts. I have been making money almost as fast as I have been spending it and that is thanks to how vibrant the crafting community currently is in their desire to craft.

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The mats for the recipes aren't out yet so your point is moot.

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Originally Posted by DarthBuzzer

The mats for the recipes aren't out yet so your point is moot.

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My point is not moot. The thread claims crafting is dead, it is not and that is a fact. Crafting is not only alive and well but thriving currently so the OP should of made the title maybe 'crafting may be impacted by red script issues'. The current thread title is a fallacy and it is just melodramatic scaremongering. If the OP just wants to whine about the flaws of the red scripts then there are already threads talking about that which are not as ridiculous, melodramatic and hyperbolic about the state of crafting compared to this one. Yes there is a problem with red scripts but no crafting is not dead, not in the slightest.

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Originally Posted by Espritduo

If they're dumb enough to sell it that cheap, you'd be a fool not to buy it. Like I said, I expect, if anyone actually decides to sell these, it will be for bare minimum 10mil a piece, most likely rising much higher, and that's just for the raw mats themselves, let alone an actual HQ crafted mat like moonbeam thread. The actual gear I'd bet would sit at 50-100mil a piece if anyone actually tried to sell that.

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They wont be 10mil each when you need in effect 30 (300 scripts) to make some items.

Nobody is going to be paying 300mil for the mats to attempt to make 1 robe HQ lol.

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Originally Posted by Espritduo

If they're dumb enough to sell it that cheap, you'd be a fool not to buy it. Like I said, I expect, if anyone actually decides to sell these, it will be for bare minimum 10mil a piece, most likely rising much higher, and that's just for the raw mats themselves, let alone an actual HQ crafted mat like moonbeam thread. The actual gear I'd bet would sit at 50-100mil a piece if anyone actually tried to sell that.

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You can basically expect the RMT sites to sell this stuff for...well...RMT. That's how it looks currently, anyhow.