Dear Yoship, HUGE thank you from a SMN

The career SMNs have always played the job for what it is, not griped about what it isn't. The posts in here decrying the style and basic gameplay of the job are not the players that this thread intended to attract, I guarantee it. This thread seems to be intended for career SMNs to express their gratitude over the job's improved DPS numbers and more seamless form of play (buh-bye super dull Ruin spam between DoT refreshes and lack of burst contribution once your Aetherflow stacks were spent), not to imply that the job is somehow different at it's fundament.

Shhhhh guys it may get Nerf both are two new AOE could be a holy/flare Nerf or even a lower POT ; ;.

I hope it stay again but knowing SE i see it happening.

I'm glad they went this direction with SMN rather than adding a bunch of useless egis.

In all seriousness though, they did do a good job with the classes dps and over usefulness in this expansion. I really hope that they take the egi glamour system and run with it, so we can have impressive looking summons to go with impressive looking actions like deathflare and such. Also hopefully we don't have to wait all the way to patch 3.4 to see some inklings of that system. So I am putting all my hopes on that system currently at the moment. Suprana or Chirada egi glamour hype?

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Originally Posted by Havenae

Yeah Yoshi, thanks so much for ignoring every single it of feedback that has been posted on these forums about the summoner job.

Oh and thanks for being lazy and screwing us out of our namesake by not giving us any more egis.

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People who are currently unhappy with SMN: They ignored everyone!!! Everybody wanted a thousand more egis and no actual adjustments to the quality of gameplay! I won't be happy until the SMN in this game is like FFXI where i could just stand there and watch as my pet does everything.

People who are currently happy with SMN: *confetti*

Everyone keeps bringing up that our SMN does not feel like a "traditional" SMN. Need I remind everyone that "traditional" SMNs were just BLM/WHMs with a some really flashy attack sometimes.

The new spells really fixed a lot with the class, but regardless of what anyone here thinks, egi's are a core component of this class. They are literally the mark of the summoner. As they stand now, they might as well be a two year old vanity, and desperately need work. The new spells are fun but summoner is not even close to being fixed yet, sorry guys. All of the arguing in here is silly, people act like just because we have new spells that pets can keep being screwed up. Egi's are the worst pets ever and honestly might as well not even be there right now, and it's too late to remove them. They have to do something with them, it would be extremely lazy not to, considering a lot of people pay money every month to main this class in their game. This is why a lot of people are still unhappy, the egi system is majorly flawed.

I levelled my SCH first and subsequently, my SMN and I think the changes to SMN are fantastic, I was never a big SMN player back before Heavensward but I can't get enough of playing it now, with improved Bane and Painflare/Deathflare, our AoE is really potent and fun to use, now that we have Dreadwyrm Trance, we don't have to mindlessly mash Ruin/Ruin II between DoT timers, now I get to plan out my attack and finally learning a class I had no interest in before.

I am quite sketchy at it at the moment, but I am getting good practice in to be better.

I like the new summoner changes where they can deal quite a bit of damage...but sadly I don't see this as a summoner any more. Let's all be honest currently the Egi hardly does anything. In this current situation it feels like SE didn't know how to make a real pet class called summoner and changed it. Let's be honest the people who are happy are happy because now they are doing big deeps. In my opinion they haven't "fixed" summoner, pets are still useless and don't do anything might as well rename the class as Invoker then take summoner back to the drawing board. The pet glamour system won't fix summoner because all it will be is a idol standing there swinging at the target which as the same effects as another pet. Currently, in my opinion the class which is least like how they generally portrayed in Final Fantasy is Summoner.

When I look at the other classes I can still see the iconic feel to them but here? Nope summoner isn't what I expected from a summoner in the final fantasy series and don't try give me "oh, but lore in this game!" Yes I understand lore but at least the other classes have their lore but still keep the iconic feel of a final fantasy job.

My question about the lore is. Here is near a thousand year old vengeful primal elder dragon that literally tried to burn and raze us to the ground out of pure rage and spite. So we are taken that aether and coursing it through our body..... I mean does that really sound safe at all or make any sense? I mean I could understand trance with the other primals....but bahamut really? So were just gonna forget that he practically enthralled Louisuix and Darnus?

And again were channeling this rage filled vengeful aether through our bodies.... >.> The whole time I am just starting at Y'mhitra and going....did you check if this has any side effects or long lasting consequences?

SMN is way too strong now. They deal too much damage for how much mobility and utility they have. Since they have probably the most valuable utility in the game (a battle res), they should definitely be weaker than other classes in exchange.