Who else likes Wanderer's Minuet?

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Originally Posted by awesomeuno

maybe that is the idea of WM. pull it up when barrage is available, lol. Honestly, if we could use IJ outside of it, that might be the optimal way to use it

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Havn't done much testing regarding using it for your opener and then dropping it, but using WM whenever Barrage is up for BAR+EA combo is not worth it. Since WM has a 3s cast time, you only gain 2 x 90p but lose 2 x 150p.

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Originally Posted by SasakiNori

Havn't done much testing regarding using it for your opener and then dropping it, but using WM whenever Barrage is up for BAR+EA combo is not worth it. Since WM has a 3s cast time, you're losing 2 x 150p but gain 2 x 90p.

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im trying to figure out your math. most bards will have a gcd of about 2.42 or less(mine is 2.38). casting WM you lose 1 gcd, not two. also, where did that 90 come from? cant be EA, because that is 240 pot(not sure why you decided to subtract heavy shot pot from EA pot). if you are going to compare the two, it is a 90 pot increase each time.

Here's a bug(?) I noticed last night while cursing this chained in place stance. When using WM, I fire off a Repelling Shot. When I land, all skills are available for use, however, when i try to immediately use, say heavy shot or SS, the cast bar begins but then about half a second in it interrupts. If i wait a second or so after I land from the RS, the charge & shot go off as intended. Am i just trying to get it off too quickly for the server to process or is this a bug?

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Originally Posted by Miah_Dakwhil

Here's a bug(?) I noticed last night while cursing this chained in place stance. When using WM, I fire off a Repelling Shot. When I land, all skills are available for use, however, when i try to immediately use, say heavy shot or SS, the cast bar begins but then about half a second in it interrupts. If i wait a second or so after I land from the RS, the charge & shot go off as intended. Am i just trying to get it off too quickly for the server to process or is this a bug?

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It sounds like the former. Probably a latency thing where you were still "moving" from repelling shot while trying to cast the next skill.

PSA: barrage + heavy shot gives double chance to get a SS proc. only double, as stated in barrage tool tip

*sigh* Contending with the lag monster as well... yay!
What I'm feeling right now LOL - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpE_xMRiCLE

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Originally Posted by Kaze3434

im trying to figure out your math. most bards will have a gcd of about 2.42 or less(mine is 2.38). casting WM you lose 1 gcd, not two. also, where did that 90 come from? cant be EA, because that is 240 pot(not sure why you decided to subtract heavy shot pot from EA pot). if you are going to compare the two, it is a 90 pot increase each time.

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Actually nevermind what I said. @_@

Still not sure if it's worth it though. You're losing a GCD to the cast and delay your next GCD by ~0.5s. Also weaving BAR + EA under WM will essentially take as long as casting another GCD.
The 3 x 90p difference comes from the fact that you'll still be using barrage, just on HS instead of EA.

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Originally Posted by SasakiNori

Actually nevermind what I said. @_@

Still not sure if it's worth it though. You're losing a GCD to the cast and delay your next GCD by ~0.5s. Also weaving BAR + EA under WM will essentially take as long as casting another GCD.
The 3 x 90p difference comes from the fact that you'll still be using barrage, just on HS instead of EA.

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i saw where you were coming from, but lets put this in solids. 2 gcd(using HS)= 300 pot. rounding up from the cast time for WM, that is what is lost. 150x3(barrage)=450 vs 240x3-300=420. a total loss of 30 pot. not a huge amount, but still a loss. again, this is with rounding up.

i quite like it but will take alot of practise gettin used to for me... my only peeve with bard now is theres no volley---> rain of death chain cant spam volley til get the free tp RoD :(

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Originally Posted by Spawnie

i quite like it but will take alot of practise gettin used to for me... my only peeve with bard now is theres no volley---> rain of death chain cant spam volley til get the free tp RoD :(

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The new AOE rotation is throw your dots on everything you can, while RoD continually refreshes