Well, I reached out to the Japanese Community in regards to RMT issue...

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Originally Posted by Fortified

All the anti-rmt posts is getting more annoying than the actual rmt spam.
Square Enix has 3000+ employees; annoying the Japanese Players is unnecessary. They're reading these posts, but they aren't going to issue a new statement every day.

"RMT spam is getting worse" I have been seeing far less spam on my server.
"FFXIV has the most RMT spam" You've clearly never played MapleStory.
"The Japanese servers have less RMT spam because SquareSoft likes Japan more" No it's because Japanese players don't buy gil and the rmt companies know this. Why spam people who don't buy your product. And Square has an American office that talks to the dev team. The dev team knows about the rmt problem. Just relax.

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And what do they plan to do about it? It has been two years now, and the RMT problem has gotten worse instead of better. If they know about the problem, why is nothing definitive being done?

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Originally Posted by Zabuza

And what do they plan to do about it? It has been two years now, and the RMT problem has gotten worse instead of better. If they know about the problem, why is nothing definitive being done?

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I don't know. But making 10 threads a day won't make them answer. And don't forget about this. They are doing something.

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

Seriously? When do you play? In the evenings (EST), I get about one spam message every two minutes. Friend requests only come like, once every couple hours, but are infinitely more annoying. I've had five minute tell conversations that were interrupted five times by RMT spam. ... and when I accidentally send a reply to the RMT that spammed while I was typing, I keep habitually telling the RMT "Sorry, MT" before blacklisting and re-replying. <_< That's happening to me more and more frequently due to the increasing amount of RMT spam on Fairie.

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I don't know what to \tell you. I play late afternoon and evening typically. I just don't get very many tells.

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Originally Posted by Zabuza

And what do they plan to do about it? It has been two years now, and the RMT problem has gotten worse instead of better. If they know about the problem, why is nothing definitive being done?

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Nothing?

April 30th action taken

April 16th action taken

April 9th action taken

Just keep clicking "Older", i think you get the picture. If you really want I can track down some of their older posts where they detailed some of the things they did and were doing and their best practices but I'm sure if you were acually interested in know what they did/do, you would look for it on your own.

They are doing the same thing they did in FFXI, it will take a few years before RMT is all but gone, or at least very ineffective.

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Originally Posted by Fortified

All the anti-rmt posts is getting more annoying than the actual rmt spam.
Square Enix has 3000+ employees; annoying the Japanese Players is unnecessary. They're reading these posts, but they aren't going to issue a new statement every day.

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The great thing about the forums is you don't have to click on a anti-rmt thread if you don't feel like it, and the thread title doesn't take up the majority, if not all, of your list of threads like how RMT /tell or /shout spam typically take up all, or the majority, of your chat log. Also, reaching out to the Japanese players was an act of desperation as SE and the Devs native language is Japanese. It would have been much more likely for their attention to have been drawn to the issue if the Japanese community lended us their support in requesting help regarding the issue. I wouldn't call making one thread in their forums "annoying them" and as far as issuing a new statement every day.......we have had 0 responses from the community mods or SE in an unknown number of days.

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Originally Posted by MageBlack

I'm sure if you were acually interested in know what they did/do, you would look for it on your own.

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Sure, but for many of us, that's not what we care about or what we're talking about. What we care about is not seeing RMT spam. Forcing RMTs to buy new accounts doesn't directly cut down on the RMT spam that we see. They have only made a single change since 2.0 that I know of so far to assist us in making RMT spam less painful - they changed it so that, when you blist someone, /r doesn't send replies to that person, it goes to the person before them who last sent you a tell instead. That's it. That's the only change, as far as I know, that they've made to make RMT spam more bearable for the players.

Most of us are asking for something to make the RMT spam less painful, not an eventual end to RMT. Maybe an option to restrict tells to members of your friendlist, or the ability to decline a friend request from the pop-up dialog box, or something. RMT isn't going anywhere anytime soon, sure, whatever, but can we please have some help curtailing some of the advertising spam shoved in our faces every day? =\

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

Sure, but for many of us, that's not what we care about or what we're talking about. What we care about is not seeing RMT spam. Forcing RMTs to buy new accounts doesn't directly cut down on the RMT spam that we see. They have only made a single change since 2.0 that I know of so far to assist us in making RMT spam less painful - they changed it so that, when you blist someone, /r doesn't send replies to that person, it goes to the person before them who last sent you a tell instead. That's it. That's the only change, as far as I know, that they've made to make RMT spam more bearable for the players.

Most of us are asking for something to make the RMT spam less painful, not an eventual end to RMT. Maybe an option to restrict tells to members of your friendlist, or the ability to decline a friend request from the pop-up dialog box, or something. RMT isn't going anywhere anytime soon, sure, whatever, but can we please have some help curtailing some of the advertising spam shoved in our faces every day? =\

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RMT's make a living out of this. they have been in buisness since the olden days of Diablo (possibly even further) and many of them are affiliated, sharing their mountain of experience from other MMOs. SE throws up one stumbling block, they switch tactics. SE bans them, they steal more accounts, CC info, etc. They throw up IP blockers, they VPN. The more things companies throw at RMT's the more they learn and grow. Its highly unfortunate and I'm not unsympathetic to the cause of eliminating them but I'm also not unrealistic about the situation. If you think you are upset with RMT, imagine how SE feels. RMT are screwing up their game and pitting players against them too.

Well played RMT, well played.

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I see many suggestions like "restrict tells to your friends list" Then I wouldnt have met half the people I did. Its a delicate balance between stopping RMT and hindering functionality for legitimate players. With every solution you can come up with, think about how that could adversely affect a player.

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Originally Posted by MageBlack

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I see many suggestions like "restrict tells to your friends list" Then I wouldnt have met half the people I did. Its a delicate balance between stopping RMT and hindering functionality for legitimate players. With every solution you can come up with, think about how that could adversely affect a player.

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I would rather restrict tells than have the present situation. Don't know you? Don't whisper me. Problem solved for most people. This needs to be implemented - now.

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Originally Posted by MageBlack

Nothing?

April 30th action taken

April 16th action taken

April 9th action taken

Just keep clicking "Older", i think you get the picture. If you really want I can track down some of their older posts where they detailed some of the things they did and were doing and their best practices but I'm sure if you were acually interested in know what they did/do, you would look for it on your own.

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I know about that and it means absolutely nothing to me. I'm sure it's a lot more money in SE's pocket when the RMTs are constantly forced to buy new accounts, but for me, it does not cut down on the amount of spam sent to me even one iota.