Our passive characters and why the 2.55 story fails (BIG SPOILERS) (rant warning)

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Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

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Do I seriously need to do this with every post? Starting to get annoying with it's restrictions...

I'll leave the FTB alone at this point, because I get the feeling we're just going to go in a circle here.

I will admit to sort of wanting a brawl in Ul'dah instanced fight near the end to bring it all together. Wherein the WoL's echo plays the part of where we try to step in and get absolutely stomped as we try to assist Scions. And then we get to play it off as 'Well, probably shouldn't do that this time' sort of deal. But I think they wanted to make those final cutscenes just something you can pop some pop corn, sit back, and enjoy.

But then I sort of think out of respect the WoL trusted Nanamo's people with his gear as a show of good faith and Alphinaud managed to reprocure it, so it's also entirely a case with at least my toon that he was like 'okay, so kinda outnumbered and I'm not much of a pugilist... let's just kinda see where this goes and hope something comes up.'

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Originally Posted by Velia

You know the worst part? Alphinaud says right at the end that you can likely go back to Ul'dah because nobody believes you're guilty and nobody will support any action against you.
So this exile is entirely unnecessary because it's canon that Ul'dah is too lazy and lacks any backing to go after you.

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I find it terribly amusing that I can waltz into the Flames' headquarters and play Triple Triad with Swift. xD

I felt like the exile to Coerthas was sort of shoehorned in as a segue into Heavensward. I dunno. I really disliked how passive the player character was through the whole thing, though. I'd have welcomed even a plot battle. I guess it makes sense that we couldn't reasonably fight back since we wouldn't be allowed to carry a weapon into a private audience with the Sultana though, even being the Warrior of Light. As mentioned by a previous poster, if they'd just done a short cutscene calling attention to that fact (as well as when we get our weapon back) it would've made a lot more sense.

I agree with everything the OP said about PC not so sure about the rest. Here's what I think. SE is completely aware of how wuss of a man/woman our characters are. Remember when you had to fetch that flower? Even Rowena said something like "They're sending you to the markets now?" can't remember exactly what she said. Also
I was actually surprised to see

PC stand up when Nanamo was poisoned. I expected him to just sit there doing nothing. Or what he usually does. Just nod.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Remember, you lost your "Warrior of Light" powers when you fought Midgardsormr, and you also have no weapon when you are with the sultana.

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I dont know how its called in the english version, but midgardsormr didnt took the power to fight... Also where was our weapon then? we were captured and suddenly we have it after escaping?

And about this war stuff... its a REVOLUTION... so no state would have to fear a war if they interrupt, especially not just because of the brass blades and crystal braves, which seem to be the only fighting forces of the circle. Also they could have just captured / killed everyone in the room, and no one outside ever would have really noticed anything, but we just escape, with like only 5 enemy forces in the room, while escaping,a team of 2 people of the scions take on several brass blades..

I liked the scenario itself, but it was doomed to not make perfectly sense, at this point of the game, because the WOL seems to be the only one who can kill the primals, he could have probly solo handed everyone in the room.

Its not a revolution. Its just a power struggle coming to a conclusion - they were already in power anyway, doing whatever they wanted. Now they simply removed those who weren't favorable to their opinions.

I have to agree with OP! The story was fail! It was nice to see a SC so long and full of stuff BUT why they hell nobody believe the ppl who saved the world so often? Why did Limsa and gridania people ran away? (its not spoiler,just my theory,that they might just knew whats going on and get more ppl); then they decide all run to away but every 10 yalm 2 thinks its better to fight (WTF? 1min ago you said its better to run and now you split every 10yalm?) So if all would fought together,they had better chance? They seriously just looked how raubahn got smashed!!!! Why is our Char lvl 50 with all the stuff when we cannot kill stupid guards (which we killed in so many quests already).

Of course what happen is to make ppl hot for heavensward, to find out what happen to other ppl.

And btw: I went to uldah right after the last CS and no guard cared about me? So.....good job to make a story which not really fits

Honestly I loved the story.

I really think this is just a JRPG vs WRPG issue people are having. I've played tons of JRPGs, shouted at how stupid my main character can be, groaned when something predictable happened....but then again, I also play a lot of visual novels, which are just glorified electronic books. So the passivity doesn't bother me at all.

Also, still having access to Ul'dah: I remember when Ragnarok Online razed Morroc to the ground and you could no longer access the city and anything in it. It made me soooo so angry. So I'm glad I can still do things in Ul'dah, especially until they can figure out the guilds, sidequest locations, etc.... best to have access to it. Especially in an MMO. Single player, they would've blown the city up.
Otherwise, how would this go:
Newbie: Hi, can you help me?
Veteran: Sure, where are you:
Newbie: Ul'dah :D
Veteran: Oh, sorry... I can't go there.
Newbie: Why?
Veteran: You'll find out ;)

Hahaha no.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Remember, you lost your "Warrior of Light" powers when you fought Midgardsormr, and you also have no weapon when you are with the sultana. The fight on the Steps of Faith was mostly done with cannons and dragonkillers.

It may be a plot device, making it so you can't retaliate, but its within the lore of the story up to this point.

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Also technicalities.

One does not simply lose a tie to Hydaelyn. Your probably forgetting that the Midgardsormr is a guardian of Hydaelyn as well.
That said its not exactly like you need godly powers to fight off some guards.

Especially after the story drives home how inexperience these Crystal Braves are, since you need to help them out at every turn.


Besides, I remember a certain Ascian also laughing at the lack of the Blessing of Light. Well the last laugh wasnt on him that day.

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Originally Posted by Kalandros

Its not a revolution. Its just a power struggle coming to a conclusion - they were already in power anyway, doing whatever they wanted. Now they simply removed those who weren't favorable to their opinions.

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http://i.imgur.com/erdduka.png

Totally agree with the OP
It's a real fail, but not only for 2.55, but for all the 2.5 cutscenes, our character is completely passive/weak/useless.

Anyway, I found a solution : Skip cutscenes.