Mail, AH and Banks

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AH - Unneeded. They already stated they're working on the MW system and for the most part they're pretty much the same system. We don't need a 'centralized' area before they even balance the game out, it's actually only going to make matters worse.

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Well if there's no AH here is what is NEEDED at the very least
- In-game price history, easily accessible while setting prices on your retainers.
- Market wards that are shared between all locations, otherwise some areas never sell anything, or develop pricing issues.

Really an AH is the better means of fixing all of these problems at once.
I'm really tired of having to check pricing on some website, then going back into FF14 (alt-tab is still broken), setting prices on my retainers in Gridania Market Ward, only to log a week later have having sold nothing. At that point it becomes extremly annoyingm hence people asking for a centralised AH system.

My two cents
-- Francois424

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Originally Posted by Francois424

Well if there's no AH here is what is NEEDED at the very least
- In-game price history, easily accessible while setting prices on your retainers.
- Market wards that are shared between all locations, otherwise some areas never sell anything, or develop pricing issues.

Really an AH is the better means of fixing all of these problems at once.
I'm really tired of having to check pricing on some website, then going back into FF14 (alt-tab is still broken), setting prices on my retainers in Gridania Market Ward, only to log a week later have having sold nothing. At that point it becomes extremly annoyingm hence people asking for a centralised AH system.

My two cents
-- Francois424

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Price histories are corruptable. The only way i'd accept price histories is if its an average and doesnt list who it was that sold it. So for instance

If a Silver Rings sells five times for different prices, 1000, 900, 800, 1000, 20000, The ui would say "Average selling price is 1000" not "The last selling price was 20000"

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Originally Posted by Francois424

Well if there's no AH here is what is NEEDED at the very least
- In-game price history, easily accessible while setting prices on your retainers.
- Market wards that are shared between all locations, otherwise some areas never sell anything, or develop pricing issues.

Really an AH is the better means of fixing all of these problems at once.
I'm really tired of having to check pricing on some website, then going back into FF14 (alt-tab is still broken), setting prices on my retainers in Gridania Market Ward, only to log a week later have having sold nothing. At that point it becomes extremly annoyingm hence people asking for a centralised AH system.

My two cents
-- Francois424

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An AH isn't an instant fix. The dev team even said just slapping on an AH won't fix anything, so it's kind of hard to argue against what the people behind the game states.

An AH in gridania won't have people flooding back given it's well known most people station themselves in Ul`dah, which means not only when the Uldah AH is flooded, thus lower prices, no one would utilize the AH in Limsa or Grid due to the fact he prices will always be higher.

Thus, no instant fix and only more problems.

Yes, I know about everyone flockling to Uldah.
I was not very clear about what a centralised AH meant, or I used a wrong world to describe it.

Think of it as ONE AH for the whole world. If I am not mistaken this is the way FF11 operates nowadays... and WoW too ! That way it dosent matter if you access the AH from Gridania, Limsa Lominsa, or Ul'dah, or any new major settlements in future expentions. You will still see the same items, in the same numbers, for the same prices. Note that keeping an history and hiding the true price of the listed items (such as FF11 was/is) is my prefered way of doing things.

It will still take tame for the economy to balance out, and the prices might fluctuate with the exemples you provided for some time. But I think it would the better move, seriously.

If you only keep market wards, it keeps potential players away and annoy a lot of the ones already playing.
-- Francois424

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

Price histories are corruptable. The only way i'd accept price histories is if its an average and doesnt list who it was that sold it. So for instance

If a Silver Rings sells five times for different prices, 1000, 900, 800, 1000, 20000, The ui would say "Average selling price is 1000" not "The last selling price was 20000"

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You say corruptible, But I actually like a system where I can collaborate with other suppliers and Buyers. Along with a lot of other factors the lack of a price history leads to buying and selling uncertainty and unstable prices. A price history helps sellers establish the price they want to place on the item and buyers establish a price they want to pay for that item. The middle ground of that will establish a much more stabilized price of goods than we have right now.

I do like the averaging system you mentioned, but perhaps we could have that be the headline of the price history and then you can click further to view the entire list of recent exchanges.

The whole market wards retainer system just needs to go, it was a retarded idea to start with and is a retarded idea to continue with. I can't believe it's still there after this long seriously...