If DRG does in fact get a buff...

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Originally Posted by rickyguo

My initial burst is like 800-900 with a ninja trick attack and I have not had any issues pulling hate against a tank with i115 weapons. To be fair, I usually wait a gcd for the boss to be pulled into position or turned anyways.

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I would like to know what you're doing, and what your gear is please.

8-900 is really pretty high.

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Originally Posted by Leonus

I would like to know what you're doing, and what your gear is please.

8-900 is really pretty high.

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http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/5478795/

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Originally Posted by rickyguo

My initial burst is like 800-900 with a ninja trick attack and I have not had any issues pulling hate against a tank with i115 weapons. To be fair, I usually wait a gcd for the boss to be pulled into position or turned anyways.

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Yes exactly. All good drg have to wait that global or they will pull. Very nice gear btw, I should be right there with you but real life for 8 ppl during holidays gets hectic.

They need a rework more than a buff. It is embarrassing how a level 50 Bard in AF gear has more MDef than an i110 Dragoon with Proshell. NIN and MNK has more utility, especially in End game raid situations. It is not worth it to Bring a DRG for just Disembowel. They are almost a liability at T13 with all the Magic Damage coming out constantly. It doesn't matter if the DRG becomes king of DPS in terms of Numbers, people would still bring MNK/NIN to end game raids.

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Originally Posted by DCILuther

They need a rework more than a buff. It is embarrassing how a level 50 Bard in AF gear has more MDef than an i110 Dragoon with Proshell. NIN and MNK has more utility, especially in End game raid situations. It is not worth it to Bring a DRG for just Disembowel. They are almost a liability at T13 with all the Magic Damage coming out constantly. It doesn't matter if the DRG becomes king of DPS in terms of Numbers, people would still bring MNK/NIN to end game raids.

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mdef won't go untouched. They'll change it.

Please have some consistency when looking at DPS...

DPS changes over the course of a fight, and if we are talking about sustained DPS (which we are), then 3 mins is way too short to look at...

If you look at 5 mins for example, then both NIN and MNK will be well ahead of DRG. If you look at a shorter period, then NIN will totally destroy DRG too... You should look at the opener DPS from NIN when done right...

There are a lot of bad DRG's around, but it's not like DRG is hard to play, and even the best players in the world don't really want to bring a DRG when progressing early on in the patch...

DRG needs higher M.Def to not just die all of the time, and they need a buff to their sustained DPS. The buff doesn't have to be huge if they get some better utility, but I honestly don't think they will suddenly add that now, especially after not doing anything with BLM... That will come in 3.0 if that's happening.

Thats why we need to keep this: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...58#post2580158

Going, so we can hopefully find out soon.

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Originally Posted by Verus

The DRGs worth their salt will rip aggro on pull 100% of the time and people will rage for an enmity buff. You can't expect a DRG to burn elusive jump on the pull because of aggro issues. The most DRG will need is a slight mdef buff or hp buff, 5% at most. DRG currently can push 500+ dps easily and in a raid situation with a NIN and Selene they can easily surpass 520 or more.

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Meh, not really if the tank is half-decent. On first pull my BLM can be at well over 700 dps by the time RS wears off with good RNG and this is without Quelling Strikes.

On a side note, Lucrezia one-shot T13 last night with 3 DRGs and 1 BRD

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Originally Posted by Ooshima

On a side note, Lucrezia one-shot T13 last night with 3 DRGs and 1 BRD

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Not a one shot, DRG MDEF OP. Two shot though.

http://www.twitch.tv/lucrezia_alex/b/591920904

For anyone interested, the clear pull starts at 16:20