Voting with my wallet

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Originally Posted by Yshnal

The OP simply made a non-raging post to give SE his reason as of why he's leaving the game. Why can't some of you let him do whatever he wants, and give his feedback just as SE has told us countless times to do? Is it so important to you and to your lives to belittle or actually care about where the OP puts his money on? Is he paying with your money? Are you getting money from him? Then why don't you stop acting like little kids that think that they're funny, and simply move on? Grow up.

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Its an open forum. people can comment if they wish. If you don't want feedback from the community then send SE an email directly. Also how do you know that they are not little kids?

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Originally Posted by Eye_Gore

Its an open forum. people can comment if they wish. If you don't want feedback from the community then send SE an email directly. Also how do you know that they are not little kids?

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Sice when do snarky comments count as feedback or add anything to a discussion?

And even kids have to grow up. Just because they're kids that doesn't mean that they can do and say whatever they please.

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Originally Posted by AttacKat

We will combat RMTs
Failed: Cash shop only further encourages RMTs. You can run ALL the bots you like and never get banned.

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Sorry but I am really tired right now so I can't connect the two but how does Cash shop encourage further RMT?

Are there even any sub MMOs left which don't have a cash shop? OP is going to find it difficult to play a new game when he finds out all the other sub MMOs have cash shops too. He'll have to play a F2P MMO and those are blatantly P2W in their cash shops. Have fun with that!

I believe negative feedback is way more useful than positive feedback. So I am quite glad when people tell SE the reason why they are leaving.

For me leaving because of something that is not yet ingame is not a good idea, for someone it is a valid reason. I am against cash shop but I will wait a few months how it turns out before rush leaving.

But still thanks for providing SE with valuable feedback. Better than whiteknighting 24/7 or swallowing their every decision.

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Originally Posted by Martin_Arcainess

Before I carry on, what post a thread that you don't want feedback from? It's like starting a conversion with someone and not wanting them to talk back to you. ?+?

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"Since when do snarky comments count as feedback or add anything to a discussion?"

The cash shop is only selling crappy vanity gear ain't it?

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Originally Posted by Martin_Arcainess

Some of the things you said I disagree with.

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You ignored #1 and the topic of the thread - You ignored what is apparently a reversal in what they told us already. This is why people don't trust the cash shop rhetoric... and it also points out my biggest concern. Cash shops are the hallmark of revenue issues. If they are having revenue issues, there are other problems... and zero amount of promises will matter. They will be forced to do what they have to for revenue, regardless of what Yoshi goes out and tells players.

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Originally Posted by gorror

Thx for the fun SE, i hope i can come back some day.

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

You can, you just need to get over yourself.

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This. Upvote for you.

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Originally Posted by ApolloGenX

You ignored #1 and the topic of the thread - You ignored what is apparently a reversal in what they told us already. This is why people don't trust the cash shop rhetoric... and it also points out my biggest concern. Cash shops are the hallmark of revenue issues. If they are having revenue issues, there are other problems... and zero amount of promises will matter. They will be forced to do what they have to for revenue, regardless of what Yoshi goes out and tells players.

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Actually no. I'm afraid this post indicates a severe lack of knowledge in how the gaming market works and a bit of tunnel vision. Cash shop in no way indicates by itself any kind of revenue issue. It indicates, like DLCs, season passes, pay-for cosmetic items in a myriad of games and similar vehicles of additional revenue, that the publisher is... looking for additional revenue. That's it.

This doesn't mean they're not making enough money. As a matter of fact all the indications for investors document indicates that FFXIV's revenue is strong and improving. But no matter how strong the revenue, publishers are *always* looking for sources of additional income, because it's their job.

World of Warcraft has had a cash shop for the longest time, and definitely did not have any kind of "revenue issue" when it was implemented.

I quote from the latest quarterly release:

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Massively multiplayer online role playing games such as “FINAL FANTASY XIV” and “DRAGON QUEST X,” have been making favorable progress.

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All previous releases since the launch of 2.0 had similar statements indicating growth.

Final Fantasy XIV actually made them revise their earning forecasts upwards back in May.

The equation "they're looking for more money = they are in trouble" is an extremely ignorant one to make, and from what we know is also utterly false in the case of a successful game from FFXIV, so you may want to leave the tinfoil hat at home, and justify your dislike of the cash shop just with what it is, a personal dislike, instead of trying so hard to back it up with false assumptions you can't make and that conflict with everything we know (which is unfortunately a problem with internet discussion. Many seem to be afraid to admit that they just dislike something without factual justification, so they have to invent knowledge they simply don't have).

Mictrotransactions are an extremely rooted element in today's gaming market, and there's simply no reason for a company aiming to generate revenue like square enix to ignore that revenue source when they have ways to utilize it without impacting the balance of the game, like almost every developer out there does. You're free not to like them, but using them to justify baseless conclusions on the game's performance is just a bit silly.

I'll give you a hint: Games with revenue issues don't go 'round organizing fan festivals in three different parts of the world, nor are heavily present at every major gaming event taking up an extremely relevant part of a publisher's top tier booth.

A good way to avoid blundering around blindly when talking about revenue is checking the documentation for investors first, and get some insight on how the specific market works. Your post indicates that neither those steps have been performed, replaced at best by hearsay, at worst by random guessing.

Somebody call the waambulance...